Politics, Prophecy & the Supernatural Interview with “Jane” Mark Conn Caspar McCloud Has the entire world gone crazy? Seeing From A Heavenly Perspective Natalina Henson Richard Shaw Depression and the Believer: Can a Christian Suffer from Depression? As Things Become Clearer Aaron Judkins S. Douglas Woodward Pyramid of the Eye The Debate on the Fate of America Tony Kail Fritz Zimmerman The Giant’s Burial Pit Controversy in Kansas The Revolution is being Televised $2.00 1 www.lamarzulli.net Jane (not her real name) was abducted when she was a teenager. This is her story. It’s real, burgeoning and not going away. – L.A. Marzulli, CEO, Spiral of Life May, 2015 Mark Conn Has the entire world gone crazy? L ike many of you, I have been watching and reading about what’s taking place in Baltimore, Maryland. And my heart is broken. We’ve seen and admired a scared, brave momma grabbing her son and taking him away from the riots and back to his home. But what is the problem? What is happening to the world where it seems rioting and violence have become commonplace things, and police are more often feared than they are appreciated and respected? Why have the scenes of burning buildings, police in riot gear, demonstrators throwing rocks and flaming bottles at authorities, and groups of people running out of vandalized stores with their arms loaded with stolen merchandise become commonplace? The problem isn’t race. The problem isn’t abusive police. The problem isn’t inept politicians. The problem isn’t poverty. The problem isn’t any attitude held by any person or group of people. This isn’t a liberal problem or a conservative problem. We’ve watched scenes of vandalism and destruction and senseless violence that’s done in the name of a young man who died while in the custody – rightly or wrongly – of the Baltimore Police. We’ve seen the anger and frankly just raw frustration and hopelessness that’s apparent in the way many of the peaceful protestors look and act, and it’s even more evident when those who are not peaceful are thrown into the mix. 2 This isn’t a political problem, a legal problem, or an economic problem. More jobs aren’t going to “fix” it. Dialog over ethnic differences isn’t going to stop it. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Has the entire world gone crazy? (continued) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Disarming the police isn’t the answer. All of these things are just symptoms of the real problem. The problem is sin. We live in a broken world. This isn’t the way that God designed our world to operate. From the moment that Adam sinned and chose to disbelieve the goodness and promise of His Creator, our world has been broken. God intended that there would be no abuse or prejudices based on the color of our skin or the money in our bank account. But sin came into our world because of disobedience, and now we have prejudice and anger and abuse and malice and theft and helplessness and hopelessness and anguish and death. Jesus said: The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy That thief is Satan, the enemy of all mankind. His desire is destruction. He relishes our pain and instigates acts of violence and hatred, inciting savagery and cruelty among those who have been created in the very image of God Himself. And when we hate one another and knock down what others have built up, when we abuse each other and excuse both the act and the retaliation, we fulfill the desire and hopes of the one who is scheming for our destruction. So what’s the answer? How do we go forward? He’s not a good answer. He’s not one of several answers. He’s not even the best answer. He is the only answer. He is the Healer of the brokenhearted. He is the Voice of the victim and abused. He is the Judge requiring fairness and equity. He is the Champion of the oppressed. The answer won’t be found in more laws or greater awareness or more accountability or increased racial understanding. The problem won’t be solved by economic investment or urban renewal or a change in leadership. The problem is sin. Jesus is the cure. Is there hope? Yes! Just as Jesus revealed that the enemy of all humanity steals, kills, and destroys, He also revealed the answer to our hurt and despair: 3 The answer is Jesus. Mark Conn is teaching pastor for Mark Conn Ministries. His passion is unleashing ancient truths about a future promise found in God’s Word. A pastor for thirty years, Mark has a unique ability to communicate truth and challenge people to apply those truths to their daily lives as we prepare for the return of Jesus Christ. www.lamarzulli.net www.markconn.org May, 2015 hide and seek, but I perceived that the seeker stopped playing the game. It was at once a self-effacing and selfish game I was playing. “Stop looking at me!” and then... “Please notice me!” Natalina Henson T Depression and the Believer: Can a Christian Suffer from Depression? his evening, I was having a discussion with a friend about depression. We were sharing stories about our own experiences, and lamenting the loss of those who had succumb to that same awful pain that we’d experienced. A lot of Christians have a hard time talking about depression. It’s never a pleasant conversation, but it is necessary. I’ve discussed my issues with anxiety in various venues, but I haven’t really mentioned depression. I don’t know why. Maybe there is a small part of me that is afraid that mentioning it will conjure past demons that I’d rather not revisit. Maybe I’m afraid that it will come across as self pity. Depression is something I’ve struggled with for most of my life. I never really felt like I fit in anywhere. Often, I’d resorted to silliness and cheerfulness as a means to mask the darkness. Certain events in my own life served to perpetuate the notion that I was worthless or worse, that I was dangerous. As a result, I endeavored to be as harmless as possible. This generally manifested in an attempt to be invisible. The problem with actively making oneself invisible is that it works. People have a hard time seeing you. And then they stop seeing you. It’s very lonely being invisible. But at least you can’t hurt anyone by your very existence. So it was the best solution I could come up with. Over time, as I tried to hide from the world, I began to resent the world for not being able to find me. I felt like a child playing 4 I took things a step further and combined my depression with anxiety. It was an awful menagerie of misery and it sent me down the road of New Age philosophy which promised that if I would just meditate and “center” myself... I could achieve peace. Better yet, I could attain a state of bliss. I chased that bliss for years, moving from one lie to another. The principle of self affirmation told me that I could simply tell myself I wasn’t sad and the sadness would go away. The Law of Attraction told me that I could manifest my own happy reality on a quantum level. Eastern mysticism told me that I could be at peace if I would simply align myself with the universe, open my third eye, align my chakras, and assume the lotus position whilst chanting various mantras. Guess what? None of it worked. The deeper into the darkness of depression I spiraled, the deeper into the darkness of the occult I was driven. And the further into the occult realms I wandered, the more I found people who seemed to understand me. Granted, they were all depressed and/ or suicidal, but as they say.. misery loves company. You see... this is right where the enemy wants us. When you are in a state of despair and self loathing... he’s got you right in his crosshairs. He comes to kill and destroy, and few things are more destructive than a person without hope. Thankfully, it was at my lowest point that I came into the light of Christ, and He pulled me out of that pit of despair. In Jesus I found life and light and hope. My life was forever changed. But, if I’m being honest... depression and anxiety still visit themselves upon me on occasion. The extent to which they affect me is greatly diminished, but they still crop up. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Depression and the Believer: Can a Christian Suffer from Depression? (continued) Thank the Lord that I have a Savior to turn to and a Comforter to rely upon. Prayer changes things and earnestly seeking the Lord’s comfort in times of depression is always the best medicine. Because I experienced this terrible affliction of depression in my life, I have so much compassion for those who are still stuck in that trap. What’s even more troubling is when I meet Christian brothers and sisters who struggle with depression. I find that they tend to be very reluctant to be open about it. They fear that it could mean that they are not “good enough”. They struggle with guilt and shame which just makes their depression worse. And because they don’t want to talk about it, they compound the depression with isolation... a diabolic combination. There are lots of reasons why people, even Christians, suffer from depression. There are biochemical reasons, there are situational reasons, and yes... I believe there are supernatural reasons. Depression can be and often is the result of demonic oppression. When we encounter a brother or sister who is suffering from depression, it is important that we don’t immediately jump to conclusions. Sometimes we can easily and unintentionally become like Job’s counselors... offering over-zealously our diagnoses of the problem and suggesting a quick cure, when in reality, we aren’t always qualified to make those calls. Sometimes, the best thing we can do is just sit with our friend or loved one and hear them out, letting them tell us to the best of their ability what is troubling them and why they are sad. The best weapon in our arsenal is always the Word. We must stay grounded always in the Word. This will help to guard ourselves from spiritual attack and will also prepare us for those times when our friends and family may need encouragement. 5 But what is really on my heart tonight as I write this essay is that we must remove the false notion that Christians, if they are true believers, will never suffer depression or anxiety. Again, we mustn’t be like Job’s counselors who were quick to say “You are suffering because you’ve displeased the Lord!” This is not only presumptuous, but it drives sufferers further into isolation and out of fellowship for fear of being judged as somehow unworthy of God’s comfort and love. Many well known Christians throughout history have revealed their battles with depression. C.S. Lewis, Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon.... not to mention Biblical figures like Elijah who was depressed and contemplated suicide... all were known sufferers. The good news is that whatever is the source of the depression, as believers we are all in the care of the Great Physician. It may be that one will suffer for a time until they are able to overcome the source. For some people, melancholy is a long battle to be waged, but if we turn to the Lord in these struggles www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Depression and the Believer: Can a Christian Suffer from Depression? (continued) He is faithful to apply salve to all of our wounds. He will work on us and through us until we reach restoration. He is our hope. If you or someone you know is a believer dealing with depression, please be comforted in knowing that it is not a reflection of God’s care for you. It does not mean you are being punished for not being a “good enough” Christian. Your works cannot gain you the grace and mercy that is freely given to all those who call upon Him. Spend time in the Word and in prayer asking for the Lord to guide you and deliver you. Ask Him to give you that “peace that passes all understanding” and He will be faithful to bring you to that place in His perfect time. And do not isolate from fellowship. Try to be open about what you are feeling and experiencing and let your brothers and sisters offer you comfort and solidarity. It is my prayer that by being open and honest about my struggles, others might be encouraged to open up about the trials they are facing. With the Lord you are never alone, and if you can stop being afraid to tell people about your depression, our loving Lord will bring people into your life who will join you in prayer and comfort. God of All Comfort “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.” - 2 Corinthians 1:3-4 http://extraordinaryintelligence.com Nearly 900 pages of adventure, intrigue, and suspense! Order today! lamarzulli.net 6 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Eye on the One US Dollar! Not any of these artifacts do not fit any known and existing South American pre-Columbian culture. Aaron Judkins Pyramid of the Eye If you put this pyramid under black light, the eye is shining very strongly and it looks really like an eye, but not really like a human eye and takes on an interesting hue. Here you have a close-up of the eye and you can see the colors of the inlay. I recently interviewed Klaus Dona on my radio show EPIC Voyages Radio on the Inception Radio Network. I’ve known about Klaus’s work now for about 15 yrs now. We have similar interests in the field of forbidden archaeology. After a long 2 years, I was finally able to make contact with Klaus & get him on my show. We discussed his work and a very intriguing find in Ecuador. One very interesting artifact found is the so-called Pyramid of the Eye. This artifact along with 350 others were found in 1984 while digging for gold in Ecuador in an underground tunnel system. The eye is an inlay. The stone is grey and white and you have thirteen steps. It looks exactly like the Pyramid with the Shining 7 On the bottom of this pyramid, you have the inlay in little gold plates showing the Orion star constellation, and you have unknown writing. You can see a star map of Orion’s Belt along with writing that is older than any known writing on this planet. The translation of Professor Kurt Schildmann, who was the President of the German Linguistic Association and he was perfect in more than forty languages… he was able to translate this writing. He called it pre-Sanskrit because it is older than the oldest writing and that it has similarity to the Indus writing and also to the Easter Island writing. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Pyramid of the Eye (continued) Malta in the Mediterranean; Turkmenistan, Australia, and in Southern Calabria, and Italy just a few years ago. There are stones and ceramics – terracotta – with the same writing. Klaus believes this writing existed once worldwide, and that means there must have been a global civilization older than Sanskrit- older than 6,000 years. We are seeing a continuing theme involving Orion’s Belt. The pyramids on the Giza Plateau also reflect the exact same alignment as the “3 Kings” of Orion’s Belt. What is the significance of the Orion’s Belt constellation? To understand this mystery is to understand that God has placed constellations in the heavens that reveal his plan & purpose- the Gospel in the Stars. The translation of these four letters you can see here, his translation is: “The son of the creator comes.” To briefly recap: There are twelve major constellations along with their decans (side constellations) in the form of a ThreeAct play. Act One is presented through the first four constellations — Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, and Sagittarius. It begins in Bethlehem with the According to the research of Klaus Dona, the same writing has birth of the “Seed” of the woman, and establishes His conflict been found all over the world, proving that there was a pre- with and victory over Scorpio — the “seed” of the serpent. existing GLOBAL civilization that is much older than any Sanskrit Act Two is presented through four constellations — Capricorn, writings. Aquarius, Pisces and Aries. They represent the Church Age and Klaus informed me that similar writing has been found on stones New Testament Christianity, whose astronomical symbol is a fish. in certain countries like Ecuador, Colombia, Illinois, Glozel, France; 8 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Pyramid of the Eye (continued) Act Three is the last four constellations, along with their decans, representing the concluding act in the great drama of the ages — The Tribulation Period followed by the Second Coming of Christ. It is presented through the constellations Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, and Leo. For the purposes of this writing, we will skip all except Taurus- for that is where the minor constellation of Orion comes into play. Taurus The sign of Taurus opens Act Three, and is the sign of coming judgment. Taurus is pictured as a raging bull, coming furiously. Taurus means “governer, captain, or leader.” In the shoulder of Taurus is a group of stars known as the Pleiades, meaning “congregation of the judge.” Only the front half of the bull is depicted in the constellation. Where the back end of the bull would normally be drawn stands the constellation Aries, the Lamb — as if the bull is coming out of Aires. It is a magnificent picture of Christ who came the first time as the Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world, but will return one day bringing judgment upon the wicked showing us the coming of the Judge of all the earth. Orion Orion is the second of three deans of Taurus, which is said to be the most spectacular in the night sky and helps to tell the story of Taurus. We will skip Auriga and Eridanus, Taurus’s other two decans. skin of a lion that he has killed. Orion is mentioned twice in the book of Job and once in the prophecy of Amos. The brightest star in the constellation is Betelgeuse, meaning “the coming of the branch.” Another star in his foot is Rigel, meaning “the foot that crushes.” In the shoulder of the constellation is a star called Bellatrix, meaning “quickly coming.” In his leg is a star called Saiph meaning, “bruised.” Again, as in every other case, we are reminded of Christ crushing the head of the seed of the serpent. Orion is obviously a picture of Christ coming in power and great glory. In short, the constellations were named by our great Creator to tell the story of redemption for fallen humanity. The message was given to Seth, the son of Adam. For 2,500 years, before the writing of Genesis, those early civilizations were able to study the message of God’s love and redemption. That is the message of those mysterious signs in the heavens. So does “the son of the creator comes” refer to Jesus Christ & His return? According to the study we just learned about the importance of Orion’s constellation, I think the answer is clear. Jesus is the son of The Creator. He is also the Creator as part of the Trinity. And He is “coming forth as light” in Orion & as “the Judge” of Taurus. Are you ready? www.AaronJudkins.com Orion means “coming forth as light.” Orion is pictured as a mighty hunter with a club in his right hand. In his left hand, he holds the 9 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Tony Kail The Revolution is being Televised Whatever your perspective is on the shootings and the protests, it should be recognized that these situations are being exploited as open doors for domestic and international terrorist groups, street gangs and violent racial extremists. Before the initial protests in Ferguson Missouri, a number of groups and individuals identifying themselves with racial extremists had begun rallying. Many of their social media postings began rather benign but quickly accelerated into violent rhetoric. Postings began speaking about stocking up on weapons and tactics to combat law enforcement officers. An organization that I serve with that provides resources and training for public safety agencies was involved in providing information to various agencies on specific domestic terrorist groups that we had received intel about. Not long after this project, our web security team alerted us that our site was being attacked. Analysts had discovered denial of service attacks from Missouri to India. As we would soon find out, we had stepped on some toes. T he recent events surrounding police related incidents in Ferguson Mo. And Baltimore Maryland have brought an eruption of social unrest and violence. Many protesters in these cities have taken to the streets to speak out against what is perceived as a corrupt and racist institution. While there are a great majority of protesters who are law-abiding citizens that hold signs, lead chants and boycott specific businesses or agencies, there is a deadly rising fog that is blanketing these movements. 10 Many of the groups that had come up on the radar of law enforcement were hard at work. Members of the New Black Panthers had a vested interest in the protests and used it to gain new members and spread anti-police and anti-white and www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Revolution is being Televised (continued) Jewish hate. Two members of the New Black Panther Party of St. Louis attempted to buy bomb making materials and bombs in an attempt to blow up the St. Louis Arch and to murder two law enforcement officials. The subsequent protests were used as a means of gaining sympathy for pro-Palestinian organizations as well. Members of these groups would post images of Ferguson protesters alongside images of Palestinian protesters in an attempt to show empathy from various anti-Jewish organizations. Communications from members of the Islamic State shared their support for the protesters while ‘fishing’ for new recruits during this pivotal time in American history. It seems that the same players have come out again. The tragedy surrounding the case in Baltimore Maryland is yet another event being prostituted by racial extremists and domestic terrorists. Some of the groups include: Black Guerilla Family: Members of this violent prison gang are involved in drug trafficking, extortion and assaults. During the initial protests in Baltimore, law enforcement agencies received intelligence regarding threats toward police officers. Known as the ‘BGF’, members of the organization have been documented as targeting law enforcement officers. In January of 2015 a member of the BGF entered a Baltimore Police Department with a loaded pistol in order to ‘test security’. The group has ties to the violent Los Angeles based Crips street gang. New Black Panthers: March 16, 2015 In Austin, Texas 40 New Black Panther Party members protested the deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The protest coincided with the SXSW (South by Southwest) music and film festival. The New Black Panther members were carrying Kalashnikov rifles and AR-15’s during the demonstration and chanting anti-police slogans including, “A pig is a pig that’s what I said, the only good pig is a pig that’s dead” and “Oink! Oink! Bang! Bang!” while heading towards the Texas Capitol. Another open carry gun march to protest against police shootings was held in Dallas in Aug. 2014. Anarchists: Members of anarchist protest cells known as Black Bloc are very active. The group utilizes an anarchist protest tactic where individuals wear black clothing, scarves, sunglasses, ski masks, gas masks, motorcycle helmets with padding, or other face-concealing and face protecting items to conceal their identities, make it difficult to distinguish between participants and protect their faces and eyes from pepper-spray. The tactic allows the group to move as a unified mass. Black Bloc anarchists have been active in Occupy Movement protests in Oakland and other cities and have been referred to as the militant arm of the Occupy Movement. They actively seek physical confrontations with police and destroy property. I fear that the next event that occurs will bring about major escalation in violence. Groups that have a major axe to grind are becoming bolder and with the growing anti-police and anti-law sentiment 11 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Revolution is being Televised (continued) that is not only being resonated between local and presidential politicians, the rising tide may overflow into our city streets. This is a time for Christians to remain vigilant in prayer and vigilant in demonstrating wisdom, discernment and courage. May Jesus come soon! Tony Thursday night on FRINGE! 6:00 pm (PST) References Bomb charges added against two men who allegedly wanted to blow up the Gateway Arch: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/bomb-chargesadded-against-two-men-who-allegedly-wanted-to/article_a61d1704-c6585bdf-bfa0-6bb37ada044f.html Black Guerrilla Family gang sends armed man to ‘test security’ at Baltimore police station: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/6/black-guerrilla-familygang-sends-armed-man-to-tes/ Email L.A. with your questions for the show: [email protected] YOU CAN NOW SUPPORT ACCELERATION RADIO BY BUYING ADVERTISING CLICK HERE TO BUY AN AD ON THE SHOW You can call the show Toll Free (1-888-682-7688) international callers (+1 (702) 508-4900) Click Here to Listen Live Thursdays at 6:00 pm (PST) You can also listen live by phone dial (832)280-0898 12 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Caspar McCloud Seeing From A Heavenly Perspective T he Lord is still moving mightily in this fallen world, for everyday there are amazing testimonies of healing miracles and wonderful signs and wonders happening. Let us prepare ourselves in the Lord for the great end time harvest as well as the end time shaking’s. Seems too many people I met are either focused on all the negative shaking’s going on with ghoulish and barbaric terror reports intended to purposely spread virally and invoke great fear worldwide. Or they are way over on the other side of the road focused only on the good things and believing for a great end time harvest ignoring what is unfolding before this fallen world. I believe we need to maintain a balance here to see things from a Heavenly perspective and understand God’s plans and purposes. That none of us would try and hide out and wait for the Rapture but instead fulfill the great commission and help win some souls for Christ. We the church must also take a firm Scriptural stand and not simply observe our society unraveling at the seams any longer. For surely there are many more of us who still desire to uphold Judeo-Christian values, than those who desire to destroy all sense of moral decency. Historically the fall of Rome comes to mind as an example of what happens when people adhere to such liberalized toxic philosophies such as we find in modern times happened with men like Aleister Crowley, who promulgated such ideas based on false religious laws of the Thelema organisations such as, “Do What Thou Wilt”. Keeping in mind that Aleister Crowley has been called the “most evil man who ever lived”? 13 Evidence points that he was used by invisible sinister forces to help set up the Globalist elite and help establish the New Word Order’s blueprints for the numerous secret societies. By the way Crowley gained as many demonic Masonic degrees as possible along with men like Albert Pike. It has been said that Crowley was to the AntiChrist what John the Baptist was to Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Clearly the Holy Scriptures tell us judgment is indeed coming, but let us also consider that the core message in the book of Revelation is about restoration with a new heaven and new earth. (Revelation 21:1) Without studying carefully to show yourself approved of the Lord and looking at what is unfolding today prophetically on the world stage, indeed it could appear quite frightening. In fact we are forewarned in Luke 21:26,”Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.” For daily our senses are being bombarded with what can only be termed controlled negative and toxic news broadcast. Demons have an assignment and are doing all they can to try an lure you into entertaining the spirit of fear. An unclean spirit of fear that God did not give you is opposite faith, so the demons can give you a fearful vain imagination that tries to exalt itself against the knowledge of God and cause a breakdown in your immune system. This is one way demons can stand back and watch you self destruct with a variety of sickness and diseases. For it is written 2 Corinthians 10:5,” Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;” This takes some effort to overcome every toxic thought and replace them with faith filled words. This of course is where the first battles are fought, as everything must start with a thought first. Recent medical research shows that DNA actually changes shape according to our thought life, how amazing is that to see now according to 2 Corinthians 10:5 As people entertain negative www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Seeing From A Heavenly Perspective (continued) thoughts giving in to fear of tomorrow which hasn’t even happened yet, (as the spirit of fear always projects into the future) that negative toxic thinking actually changes the wiring in your brain which compromises your immune system. That is what the spirit of fear is trying to do, kill, steal, and destroy you. Knowing that 80 to 95% of all sickness and diseases start in your thought life. Fight back overcomers, trust Papa God for every detail and stay in faith for whether we live or die we are the Lords. (Romans 14:8) We also read of this marvelous promise of an incredible inheritance for all true believer in Christ in Romans 8:17,” And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” I am reminded of the account of Elisha and his helper who were surrounded by the Syrian army who meant to do great harm and kill them as the terrorist of today desire to do to anyone who will not submit to their evil diabolical ways. Elisha prays for the Lord to open the eyes of his companion so he was able to see into the spiritual realm and understand the Lord had His angelic army assembled there to defeat the enemy, and so there was no need to entertain the spirit of fear. We read in 2 Kings 6: 15,” And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do? 16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them. 17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.” This is so true for us today we need to see what the Lord is doing and trust in the Lord for all things. It is rather easy to see what the enemy is doing in many areas of the world today such as in corrupted government leaders and financial schemes and control issues with it’s plans against the church and all that is 14 good. Manipulating things to call good evil, and evil good with it’s avoidance of truth by using political correctness techniques. We however need to understands and see things from God’s perspective as this is the key to freedom. 1 Corinthians 2:16,” For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.” Sometime after the supernatural healing of leprosy for Captain Naaman of the Syrian army who was healed by the Lord’s instructions through Elisha by having Naaman wash in the Jordan river 7 times. The King of Syria must have had the devil directing him because he still went and made war against Israel after knowing of this magnificent healing miracle. The King of Syria sent spies out to find out where Elisha was, because the King of Syria was greatly troubled that somehow all his plans were made known of how and where he wanted to attack Israel. He thought at first there must be a double agent in his mist of councilors and war advisers, and someone was even hearing what he said in his bedchambers, I dare say. It was soon discovered that all his plans were instead revealed supernaturally to the prophet Elisha. So the King wanted Elisha stopped at all cost. When he learned Elisha was 14 miles north of Samaria he sent his army in at night to surround them. Sort of the way ISIS -ISIL might do today. In the morning Elisha’s companion sees the Syrian army has surrounded and come to kill them and he was probably panicking at this moment, until Elisha helps him understand there are many more for us then against us. This is a tremendous insight for us to see into the invisible spiritual realm not with natural eyes but with divine adjustments as a work of the Holy Spirit. In Zechariah 1 and 6 we have the recorded accounts of spiritual riders and various coloured horses sent to learn about the conditions on earth and report to the Lord and take action as necessary. In Revelation 19:11, - 14, - 21 we learn of the armies in www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Seeing From A Heavenly Perspective (continued) Heaven riding on horses coming to earth. These spirit being are as real as you and I, created thinking beings able to do all sorts of things, only they are made of a different bodily substance. Luke 9:23,” And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.” Elisha then prays in the power of the Holy Ghost that the Syrian army be made blind and it was so. Elisha then leads that whole Syrian army safely into the hands of the King of Israel. Perhaps like some mythical Indiana Jones film type hero capturing an entire army. After they were all taken into custody Elisha prayed again so the eyes of the Syrian army were opened and they could all see the two men they wanted most, Elisha and the King of Israel who had revealed their secrets plans of war. How did Jesus respond when he heard the terrible news of his cousin John the Baptist gruesome beheading? John the Baptist who proclaimed Jesus as the Lamb of God, who vigorously preached to prepare this world for Jesus ministry. John taken prisoner and then butchered in the prime of his earthly life, just as so many thousands have recently fallen by the sword of Islam. The King of Israel wanted to have them all put to death. But Elisha persuades the King of Israel to feed them instead and let them go back to Syria. This was to prove the King of Syria was the one who instigated the war and was the one doing evil in the grand scheme of things. The acts of kindness here caused the Syrians to actually be ashamed of themselves and their plans of war against Israel. Today we hear of testimonies of some individuals who were programmed to be terrorists who were wounded in battles and experienced the same sort of acts of kindness by Israelis and Christians who then end up converting and leaving their evil ways behind, as love still conquers all. 1 Peter 4:8,” And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.” The enemy of our souls wants you to entertain the spirit of fear which breaks down your immune system so you eventually self destruct. The Lord however tells us over and over again do not fear. Our example is to be lead of the Holy Spirit in all things. It is not always easy but we must learn and practice to obey the Lord to be blessed. 15 We read in places like Matthew 14:13,” When Jesus heard of it, he departed thence by ship into a desert place apart: and when the people had heard thereof, they followed him on foot out of the cities. 14 And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick.” (See also Mark 6 and Luke 9) Sounds like Jesus went to grieve alone and also with his disciples, then he responds by going out and doing good, performing miracles by healing the sick and casting out demons. What has he called us to John 14:12,” Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. ” Will evil triumphant? Has it ever before through history? Will there be an economical collapse of nations? Are we reliant on worldly governments or on the Word of God? Whose reports shall we believe? www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Seeing From A Heavenly Perspective (continued) Kingdoms come and kingdoms fall and still His mercy remains. Yes there are wars and rumours of wars, famines and earthquakes in various places, threats of demonic terrorist organisations invading our lands, threats of an nuclear EMP weapons exploding and sending us back into a world without easy access to electricity. So there be no phones, no lights, no motor cars not a single luxury, like Robinson Crusoe, it might seem as primitive as could be. This along with threats of lying signs and wonders with the great end time deceptions of UFO’s and demons masquerading as extraterrestrials calming to be travelling millions of lights years to earth simple to tell us Jesus Christ of Nazareth was wrong. Au contraire mon ami. I pray the Lord’s supernatural peace, healing, provision and protection cover all those in agreement here always with oceans of agape love in the almighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Messiah Yeshua. This is a all part of the New World Order agendas, wanting a one world government and one world religion. Along with Nephilim Stargates, and the Hadron Collider where scientist are trying to open a portal into another dimension whilst unleashing unknown amounts of paranormal activities. Tune in for Spiritual Encounters 8pm EST Thursday Fringe Radio Will America be saved or will she be fulfilling the role of the modern day Babylon? There is always a choice my friends and it starts with each individual. Luke 21:28 “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” Pastor Caspar – Pastor, Author, Musician, Artist, Researcher, Lecturer, http://www.theupperroomfellowship.org/ http://tunein.com/radio/Fringe-Radio-Network-s169899/ 2 Corinthians 5:10,”For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.” So be good for Heaven’s sake. This is a multidimensional battle, we must all face now as in the days of Noah. Let us keep calm therefore and carry on and help win some souls to Christ, with signs and wonders following. The Lord tells us in Luke 21:15, “For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.’ I say hallelujah! Because “All”, things are possible with God! 16 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Richard Shaw As Things Become Clearer The “heart” of the film and the raw power that existed in the real event was squandered by taking creative license with a story that is already beyond anything mankind has ever experienced. And, it was all for a few hundred thousand Jews that had been in captivity for about 400 years — the mystery of which continues to unfold today. Don’t even begin to think that it’s over. T onight Mary and I watched another rather bizarre Ridley Scott I do believe we are about to see a few incredible things transpire film, Exodus, Gods and Kings. My emotions are mixed on this that will shock the world, and it may even happen this year. God film, because while many of the basic elements were in the story, isn’t finished yet with the Jews. the real heart and soul of the Exodus was ripped right out from under it. The image of God was reduced to a boy, arguing with As L.A. mentioned in one of his recent blogs, I had sent him a Moses after Moses sees the burning bush after being hit by a rock link to a story about how human DNA is currently trying to be improved by executing tests on how to switch-off the undesirable and piled under a large black mud flow. Like, huh? genes that shorten life or bring on diseases. He had already seen Moses got caught in the end under a wall of water from the Red the article. But such breakthroughs in tests on simple earthworms Sea, emerging from that experience beat up and bleeding, and have resulted in doubling their lifespan by switching off only one there was no Cecil B. DeMille depiction of a wall of water on both offending gene. sides as the children of Israel walked on dry land. It would seem a simple thing to do the same for humans, and The movie’s portrayal in so many areas was brilliant, but then fell one Australian magazine postulated that some people reading flat on its face by ignoring key supernatural elements that included that article might be the first to live to be 1,000 years old with Moses’ interaction with the Pharaoh, his staff, the arguments a only a few more years of research ahead. The science is rapidly step at a time trying to convince the Pharaoh to let the people advancing now. go. Even his receiving the ten commandments fell flat and did not follow Jewish mystical texts that describe the tablets as being Genetic manipulation is now commonplace, but we have no more like three-dimensional sapphire plates. Plagues just seemed paradigm of knowing what our experimentation will do to plants to happen by themselves without much acknowledgment that and animals on a long-term basis. In that regard, all our GMO there was a plan behind them. I get it that you have to keep the foods are using us as test subjects whether we like it or not. It story moving, but when you leave out key elements, then the would seem that Yeshua needs to come soon, or the people he came to save will no longer exist in the coming years — their DNA viewer feels cheated. will be altered, making them different from the ones that God In short, the effects were fabulous, the scenic reconstructions designed with a long-range plan in mind. of ancient Egypt breathtaking, and the storm sky scenes were magnificent. But the real supernatural stuff was watered down, This gets back to the idea of alien implants and past discussions re-written perhaps to please the studio brass’ lack of imagination, that L.A. and I have had about how these “devices” might be able and because of that the film floundered and felt cold in my opinion. to change human DNA. The late Dr. Roger Leir believed it might 17 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 As Things Become Clearer (continued) be so, but we had no physical proof that was happening. So far, I know of no actual proof that has happened to anyone having had an implant. Perhaps, changing DNA crosses a line somewhere, but it may be a lot easier to change DNA than anyone might have ever imagined. The problem is that we don’t know the long-term affect of making the slightest change. We could be making monsters out of people that might not emerge until 20 or 30 years later — long after the initial event took place. also know that implants can be singular or multiple — an implant in one’s leg is one thing, but implants in the middle of someone’s brain or behind each ear is also not totally unheard of. Those implants cannot be removed without causing damage. If you don’t believe this is happening, metallic objects show up clearly in X Rays. We have seen that “real” implants often seem to be emitting a radio signal, high enough to venture into the microwave band. We’ve measured implants that tend to give off a magnetic signature. In the case of our subject “Bill,” his implant which was only 6mm The idea that an alien implant might be able to increase the in length was generating about 7 milli-gauss. At the same time, lifespan of its human host seemed mere speculation — and it was Roger put the gauss meter on my camera running off a lithium my opinion that L.A.’s comments from the book of Revelation was battery and it read 10 milli gauss — only 3 milli gauss more than referring to a time where men will seek death and not find it — this battery-less device in Bill’s leg. due to such a DNA “upgrade” of sorts. True, it was speculation, and something we have to be careful of. We don’t want to present We also know that implants have a coating, a sometimes slick it as fact… yet. grayish substance that can either be difficult to cut with a scalpel, or at other times it can appear almost like milky plastic, although What do we really know about so-called alien implants anyway? it is not anything like plastic. It is some form of biological material. We actually know quite a lot, but we still can’t reproduce one. In the case of “Bill,” our implant victim in WATCHERS 7 and 8, Their physical characteristics are that they are typically metallic, the coating that came off his implant once it was removed was a mixture of nickel and iron with other trace elements. They are later tested at a pathology lab. Roger told me that the results of inserted under the skin without leaving any evidence of entry. This those tests of the coating showed “no evidence of infection or combination of metals is at a percentage unlike anything found inflammation,” something that we are not able to do when we try on earth and most common in meteoric particles. According to to implant an object under the skin of a human subject. Eventually, Dr. Leir, they also sometimes found carbon nanotubes in some of the body tries to reject it — pushing it out, or creating redness, the implants, although it is very difficult to detect them since an soreness and irritation. electron microscope has to be in very high power, from 20,00040,000 times, to see anything like that. The difficulty at high Beyond these scientific facts that have been lab-tested over and power levels is that you’re searching for a postage stamp in a over again, is the fact that these implants seem to be operative football field, and once you find it, you still don’t know exactly and able to be externally controlled by outside sources — sources that either are injecting complex signals into the hosts’ nervous what it’s supposed to look like — let alone how it works. system, or reading signals from them and transmitting them. We We do know that these “devices” seem to act like miniature don’t know if this phenomena is bidirectional, but the location of computers, can be controlled externally, and their results can the implant may dictate what is happening there. sometimes be felt by whomever happens to be implanted. We 18 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 As Things Become Clearer (continued) Implants located in the brain may be transmitting experiences that the host encounters back to its “source,” of whatever entities are monitoring it. While they are in the host’s body, they seem to be active. Once they’re removed, they eventually stop functioning. The idea has been postulated that such implants may allow “them” to experience our lives, know who their host is talking to, and possibly also injecting suggestions into his nervous system via connection with nerve endings. We have seen fragments of human nerve tissue hanging off these implants many times under the electron microscope after they were removed. Using EDX analysis, a factor of SEM (Scanning Electron Microscopy) examination, the tissue proved to be 99% carbon — meaning it was human in origin. Not the implant, but the tissues connecting it to the host, or as Roger used to say, “the wire that is plugging it in.” With this new information that scientists are working on extending life, then L.A.’s comments from Revelation to me made more sense. We were on a shoot together recently for WATCHERS 9, and I told him that I now think that he was correct, that some sort of implant would indeed extend someone’s life, making it difficult for them to die, or at least more resistant to death and disease. However, in my opinion I don’t think it will be an alien implant that will do it. The powers that be may have enough information to mimic what an alien implant can do, but we don’t have enough information to completely make one that complicated to the point where we are using carbon nanotube computer systems on billions of people that can monitor and upload information. I could imagine that it wouldn’t take a huge technological leap to make implants that could receive a signal from a computer to monitor or kill a person who simply was deemed a dissenter. That part seems doable. The device could emit a type of poisonous chemical compound that could kill an individual by remote control. We do know that 2,000 year old scriptures tell us that the people who took the mark ended up with grievous sores, “So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and harmful and painful sores came upon the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.” Rev. 16:2 Perhaps this means that the corp manufacturing these devices didn’t have the tech to create the grayish coating we’ve seen and tested on real alien implants, and so there was an adverse reaction to them once left in the body for a period of time. It does seem that the closer we get to the coming days that more and more scientific and empirical evidence exists to support these ancient texts. That they are more than iconic fables, or fanciful hallucinatory visions from a crazy prophet locked up in a damp prison. In fact, if we try and test these writings using today’s technical understanding, things are beginning to become clearer. By the same measure, the resulting 1,000 years of peace prophesied to occur after the apocalypse is a time when “men will live to be as old as trees.” Perhaps then, DNA will be changed in a way that is beneficial, now that the cat’s way out of the bag. But for me, in this current world there is nothing that would cause me to want to live 1,000 years. I’d rather be on the other side and asking a lot more questions. Weirdly, NDE experiencer Dannion Brinkley, once said he was shown about “the mark” in one of his near death experiences. 19 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 S. Douglas Woodward The Debate on the Fate of America The traditional end times scenario is overdue for re-examination R ecently, the revered author and friend Terry James, a long time contributor to the subject of Bible prophecy, shared an article on the website with which he is closely associated, Rapture Ready (www.raptureready.com). Terry’s article assuredly stirred the pot, so to speak (Terry confirmed to me personally that it had caused more reaction than just about anything he had previously written). After reading his excellent article, I shared it with a number of writer/researcher colleagues adding my own introduction to his remarks and making the point that if Terry James is asking this vital question, then the book that my coauthors Douglas Krieger, Dean McGriff wrote, The Final Babylon, deserves even more consideration than it is already getting (which is considerable). My email to my colleagues received both kudos and criticism. But what was the vital question that Terry James raised? Terry asserts it is time to rethink the traditional scenario (typically associated with Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, and the late Grant Jeffrey) regarding America NOT being mentioned in Bible Prophecy. I couldn’t agree more. Before I share my response to one particular criticism of a most highly regarded colleague who has written some of the best selling books on eschatology, allow me to highlight some of Terry’s analysis. It is right on point and since it brought the issue to light, sharing a good piece of Terry’s argument is necessary and proper. 20 Terry begins by pointing out that all the players in the conventional end-times scenario are standing at the starting line as if they tensely await the gun that begins the race. And yet, the most diabolical player seems to not to be in his starting block. Russia and her partners are primed (comprising the so-called Gog and Magog alliance of Ezekiel 38-39). The leader of the Kings of the East, China, stands ready to engage as it has become an undisputed financial, political, and military world power which occasionally startles us when it rattles its sabre. Israel and the nations that immediately surround it are literally in perpetual conflict, while preparations seem complete for what likely will be an attack by Israel on Iran, as Israel fears that Iran stands just moments away from having a nuclear bomb. But where is Babylon? Where is Rome? The nation or alliance of the power base of the Antichrist seems to be missing in action. Could this be so? Or are we blind to who the real culprit is? Citing Terry’s words directly, please read carefully Terry’s perspective: It could be, of course, that the fulfillment of the final prophecies involving this region [the Middle East] is far off yet. However, the Lord, I’m convinced, is telling those who are paying attention that all of these things are on the very cusp of fulfillment, not somewhere in the distant future. There must be a land (nation) and a city of unprecedented power, influence, and opulence on the scene by the end of that prophesied seven years to wrap up history prior to Christ’s Second Advent. I’ve read Mark Hitchcock’s book on the topic, as well as a number of other books on the subject of the city known as Babylon the Great. Most have it that the city will be quickly built with modern building methodologies and equipment. This, to me, is becoming less likely every day. Yet that nation and city must be there before Christ’s return, as given in Revelation chapter 18 and other places. There is www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Debate on the Fate of America (continued) nothing “spiritual” about the prophecy. The land and the city will be “literally” destroyed in an hour, the prophecy says. To me it is doubtful that building such a city of great opulence and influence could be accomplished during the Tribulation — as the tremendous geophysical destruction from God’s judgment and wrath, it seems logical, will make such construction prohibitive. The one factor that is a big unknown is the amount of time that will elapse between the Rapture of the church and the signing of the covenant that will initiate the seven years of Tribulation. If this is an extensive period of years, it is possible, perhaps, for a city such as given in Revelation chapter 18 to be constructed. Still, logic dictates that it would take a very long period to have the merchants of the earth grow rich from the delicacies that Babylon the great will offer. I think it is time to reconsider whether it has been America the whole time that this prophecy references. Despite every economic and other problem that has been thrown at America — even with the most destructive (purposefully, I’m convinced) president in its history — America stands far above the rest, $18.5 trillion deficit and all. Like the earlier prophecy says about that ancient city and land (Jeremiah 51:7), America has been a “golden cup” in the hand of God — i.e., this nation has seen to it that the gospel has been disseminated to the world. It has served as midwife in the rebirth of Israel into modernity, and has acted as its earthly protector (realizing, of course, that God, Himself, is its ultimate protector). Sadly, however, America has also become — like that doomed land and city — the most sinful in all of mankind’s history. Like it or not, the United States fits the model, and there seems no such other that has even the most remote 21 chance of one day fitting the model, if we are talking about a relatively near-term fulfillment of the prophecy in which Babylon the Great is involved. Let us think a bit more about this nation that alone fits the description of the region in which resides Babylon the Great. The United States stands at the center of the world, whether the other nation-states of the planet acknowledge or deny the fact. America is the envy of the world community for the materialistic good she possesses and produces, thus giving her great wealth and great power. It seems the globalist elitists of that world community are determined to do incrementally what they can’t do any other way short of all-out nuclear war, in which there can be no winners. They want what America has. They want the wealth redistributed, to create for themselves a power base of working class to support their needs to establish a worldwide humanist empire. Does this sound like the ravings of a conspiracy nut? Maybe so. But if it’s a conspiracy theory, my rave is biblically based. [Emphasis added] Rome Has Not Revived As I’ve lectured and written on many occasions, unfortunately it remains my contention that America wears the black hat in the last days. In contrast, the traditional scenario argues for a revived Roman Empire specifically restricted to European nations. But as we said in the first line of The Final Babylon: “Rome has not revived.” We would argue that instead we should be more specific to say that the people of the prince who is to come is in fact derived from Rome and its empire (especially Great Britain). BUT this people (most notably its leadership in politics, economics, and military) lives in the United States. It would be an overstatement to say that the United States singularly and exclusively is the power base of Antichrist. But we are arguing it is the undisputed www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Debate on the Fate of America (continued) leader of this empire, an empire that now opposes the Kingdom of God. As we depict in our book The Final Babylon, Babylon comprises an empire that has existed since the time of Nimrod. It was the capital of the Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylon and likewise, the Media-Persian Empire, and two hundred years later, the official capital of Alexander the Great and the Greek Empire. It literally and symbolically stands against the LORD of the Bible, His Christ, and His coming Kingdom. Composed of many nations, it is the ultimate fulfillment of biblical prophecies in Jeremiah, Isaiah, and Ezekiel concerning the Daughter of Babylon, the Daughter of Tyre, and the Daughter of Tarshish. Furthermore, the megalopolis that exists today from New York City to Washington D.C. constitutes the heart and soul of that empire. Another friend and esteemed writer (who I mentioned at the outset and who I won’t identify here) cautioned me in my exuberant introduction to Terry’s article in which I emphasized how Terry was suggesting we study carefully the same probable outcome that my co-authors and I have been preaching for the past 18 months. More specifically, my friend identified one primary problem that he felt scripturally contradicts the notion that Mystery Babylon could be anyone other than Rome (that is, spiritually the Catholic Church but politically and militarily most likely today’s European Union). Here was the argument in his email response: Doug, I love you brother, but you might want to calm down. Please put America in Revelation 18:20 for me. Why would the holy apostles be vindicated by the destruction of America? Your argument has a long way to go still until many of us will be convinced. I have an abundance (years) of research I’m combing through from a credible source that is very problematic for the America / Babylon theory. He [the credible source] has gone through your book, R.A. Coombes’ book and all the heavyweights that subscribe to the America / Babylon theory. 22 Should the Lord tarry longer, I will probably be publishing commentary on this topic and presently, it is not very favorable for the America / Babylon scenario. I said this in response, which will provide a quick synopsis of my position and assert that Terry was right to question the traditional scenario concerning the fate of America: I truly appreciate your comments. I would say in response to you to hear Terry James out carefully on this matter. Terry has written extensively on the traditional scenario and done years of research too on the same subjects. The fact that he is drawing the same conclusion that I and many others have drawn (including Noah Hutchings, J.R. Church, probably Gary Stearman and Tom Horn — see Apollyon Rising 2012), and a number of others (quite a few that communicate with me), suggests that there are many scriptures that are not well suited to a European ‘revival’ [as the traditional scenario supposes] and Terry is saying that current events are placing all the other players of the end time scenario at the starting gate. But where is Babylon? Terry is saying, well, The United States is the last man standing and it must be Mystery, Babylon; that it was once a golden cup in the Lord’s hand [Jeremiah 51:7] and it is full of abominations and filthiness (Revelation 17:40), that it is the hammer of the whole earth [Jeremiah 50:23], and many other points drawn from Scripture. [I would also call attention to] John Price’s book, The End of America, [which] draws some different conclusions about the timing of America’s judgment and destruction, [as] John still believes that Antichrist is likely to find his powerbase in Europe (and is probably a Muslim), but for this to happen, America must first be destroyed as described in Jeremiah 50, 51, Isaiah 13, 47, and echoed in Revelation. John Price’s position is that America is indeed in Scripture. It is more than just “the merchants of Tarshish” (Ezekiel 38:13) and it www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Debate on the Fate of America (continued) is not just casually mentioned as one of those that “dwell safely in the coastlands” (Ezekiel 39:6] but is smack dab in the middle of the fray, promoting the spirit of the beast (as I have documented extensively in my Power Quest books, not just in The Final Babylon), which includes spiritual apostasy, financial exploitation, and reliance upon military might whom the Antichrist honors (a God his fathers did NOT honor) and this is, in my view, the meaning of him being, like Nimrod, the advocate for “the god of forces” (Daniel 11:38) or strongholds. Babylon is that great city divided into three parts (Revelation 16:19). To fulfill the prophecy, Babylon must be economically the leader of the world, politically where the nations gather, and militarily the hammer of the whole earth. Only America fills the bill today. I think this is a healthy and necessary debate and whether John Price is right; or Doug Krieger, Dean McGriff, and I are right (which is where I believe Terry James is winding up); or you (and the traditional scenario of Lindsey/ LaHaye/Jeffrey), none of us are saying America can keep rocking along doing what it is doing and expect to be spared. While you are not saying that, by indicating that America is not really mentioned in Scripture you are, in my opinion, not emphasizing appropriately the message of the coming judgment of God upon America. Is [this judgment destined to happen] before the Tribulation or is it toward the conclusion of the Great Tribulation? I believe THAT constitutes the main question — not whether America is the Daughter of Babylon. I believe Hutchings, Price, Coombs, and Frank Logsdon [the beloved longtime pastor of Chicago’s Moody Church]; have been the voices in the wilderness for four decades warning that America has become the empire that stands most in defiance to the coming of the Kingdom of God. The U.S. is the Daughter of Babylon. America is the enforcer of the New World Order (NWO). Wall Street and The 23 City of London, together, comprise the financial colossus of the Final Babylon. The only real alternative to the USA being the power base of the Antichrist, is the longterm collusion of Anglo-Americanism… the Brits and the Yanks… that together have been the driving force of the NWO for over 100 years. It isn’t Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Italy, or even the EU that has the wherewithal to drive the NWO to its status as one-world empire of the last days. Indeed, the EU continues to be on the edge of oblivion. The Islamic world may have religious apostasy down pat like the Catholic Church. But like the Catholics, they don’t have the military or financial power to enforce the Antichrist’s agenda. The only economic and military powerhouse that can fill the bill is the U.S.A. Yes… I would readily acknowledge that if you are right (as I understand your position) and we (may be) still 30 years away from the Tribulation and Daniel’s 70th Week, then perhaps the U.S.A. isn’t Mystery Babylon. But then, in my view, imminency [that the LORD can rapture His saints at any time] is somewhat lost in that scenario. Furthermore, that is exactly what Terry James is pointing out: Everyone else is dressed up for the party — only Mystery Babylon is missing. Unless, that is, we have misidentified who Mystery Babylon is. As Pogo said, “We have met the enemy, and it is us!” Yes, I still believe that the Rapture occurs before the Wrath of God is poured out… which is a pre-wrath position. However, I also believe in imminency and the “Restrainer” being taken out of the way before the Day of Christ, which I believe makes me Pre-Tribulation by just about anyone’s definition. Doug Krieger and I strongly disagree on this point. But we all are sounding the alarm that the U.S.A. is betraying Israel, and as a result this action destines us for God’s judgment (consider the warnings expressed in this regard within the books authored by Bill Koenig, David Brennan, and www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Debate on the Fate of America (continued) John McTernan).1 That cataclysmic judgment will possibly happen AFTER the Rapture… but it may happen before (I see Jonathan Cahn’s books2 in this same light by the way). As to asking me to place America in Revelation 18:20, “Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.” Here are my thoughts: Many scholars, both Christian and Jewish, have regarded Babylon symbolically representing Rome but more broadly, any empire which opposes the Kingdom of God through the centuries. This would mean any empire that has (and will have) been responsible for the deaths of millions of saints not just in persecuting and killing the apostles (and missionaries) but in oppressing destitute peoples including Christians around the globe since time immemorial. While America (and Britain) believe they carry as Kipling said, “The White man’s burden” to civilize the dark races, there are many that would point out these wealthy nations have enriched themselves at the expense of the poor. From the Opium Wars in China almost 200 years ago to the wars of the last 100 years that have been fought principally for access to oil and energy, the rich nations of the West (which I believe are derivative of Rome, but stand spiritually aligned with other great merchants like the Canaanites and the Carthaginians — aka The Phoenicians) have done great harm to countless millions employing ideology as an excuse for exploitation. This may sound like a liberal position, but it is the point of departure for most of the books I have studied on the New World Order and the history of Britain and America who have enriched themselves and the merchants of the world that lusted after the fruits of ‘her’ trade (Revelation 18:15) When one places Revelation 18:20 into context, the question becomes clear, “What city is like unto this great city?” And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 14 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 15 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 16 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 17 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 18 And finally verse 24 makes it clear, it is not just the Apostles that were persecuted or murdered, but all the people of the earth that were slain by (‘spiritual’ and The Final Babylon): And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. 24 1 Bill Koenig’s book is: Eye to Eye — The Consequences of Dividing Israel. David Brennan’s books are entitled The Israel Omen I and The Israel Omen II. John McTernan’s book is: As America Has Done to Israel. All books make the case that God judges the U.S. immediately or simultaneously with foreign policy actions that harm today’s nation of Israel. 2 Jonathan Cahn’s books are The Harbinger and The Mystery of the Shemitah. 24 The implication is that the apostate City of Babylon stands opposed to holy Jerusalem, the City of God. The Daughter of Babylon is the perennial opponent to the Daughter of Zion. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Debate on the Fate of America (continued) Washington D.C., an ode to pagan architecture (beautiful though it be) and New York City the indisputable center of the world economy and capital of the great merchants of the world, are icons of Babylon. And as Scripture teaches, they may be destroyed in one hour. Conclusion Terry James is hardly the only eschatology author and speaker that has come to the same conclusion. I met evangelist Dan Goodwin on April 28 (author of God’s Final Jubilee). He shared the same opinion with me over lunch. While we were waiting to join others for lunch, I picked up a new book on the table where we were sitting and it was by an author with whom I wasn’t familiar, William E. Males, entitled The Eight Beast: An Examination Of Modern Tribulation Theology And America In Prophecy. I quickly turned to his chapter on America and sure enough, he also echoed the fact that he had believed in the traditional scenario but recently had drawn the conclusion that America fulfills the prophecies of the Daughter of Babylon. The debate about the fate of America remains one of the most important today and here’s why: We should not assume that America is “taken out of the picture” by the rapture of the Church. To reprise that traditional perspective: the theory that has been propounded by the most popular prophecy teachers is that Europe arises upon the heels of the decline of America and that America declines because it is decimated after losing so much of its population to the rapture of the Church! Would that America had that many Christians! I teach that the rapture may happen at anytime — but because America stands at the heart of Bible prophecy (not as the good guy but the bad guy) Americans should prepare for judgment. Only if there is a dramatic change of heart can we hope to escape this judgment. God will protect what is His, but it would be well for us to assume that the rapture is not the appointed path for us to avoid the inevitable cataclysm that lies ahead. “Fallen, Fallen is Babylon the Great!” (Revelation 18:2) 25 As it was with Sodom and Gomorrah so shall it be for America. Be mindful: When the historical Babylon fell, it was not devastated. It was captured “without destruction.” It is rather the Final Babylon that will be judged in such a way that no man can dwell there afterwards. • And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees’ excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. (Isaiah 13:19) • As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it. (Jeremiah 49:18) • As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD; so shall no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein. (Jeremiah 50:40) • Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed (Jeremiah 51:8) ****** S. Douglas Woodward is author of nine books including The Final Babylon: America and the Coming of Antichrist and his latest, Uncommon Sense: A Prophetic Manifesto for the Church in Babylon. www.lamarzulli.net He may be reached at [email protected] His web site is www.faith-happens.com May, 2015 of “known” tribes burials, which boils down to a tribe simply claiming that “those burials,” are our forefathers and should be protected. Fritz Zimmerman The Giant’s Burial Pit Controversy in Kansas The Salina burials represented the western fringe of the Hopewell mound builders, whose most fantastic works can be found in the Ohio Valley. Despite the overwhelming evidence that the Hopewell have their origins with the Maritime Archaic (7000 B.C. - 2000 B.C.) archaeologists have not recognized these facts, because the historic tribes of the Dakota Sioux, Iroquois and Cherokee can be tied to the burials. Remember, NAGPRA protects the burials of “known” tribal burials; meaning all archaeological work in Ohio would cease, and they would have to repatriate the thousands of artifacts pillaged from burial mounds. The Burial Pit The burial pit is first reported in the Miami Daily News (Miami, Oklahoma) October 11, 1936 The Giant’s Indian Burial Pit was also known as Salina’s Indian Burial Pit. Many of the skeleton were reported to be six and seven feet tall. The skeletons were a tourist attraction, located near Salina, Kansas from 1936 to 1989. The Indian Burial Pit was covered and sealed with concrete by the State of Kansas at the insistence of the Pawnee Indians of Oklahoma, in 1990. T he catalyst of the Native American Graves Protection Act signed by congress in 1992 was the Salina, Kansas burial pit. The Pawnee Indian tribe who had inhabited southern Nebraska and northern Kansas in historic times claimed the remains as their own, and the burial pit was forever sealed. This may seem reasonable, but when the facts are presented, there is absolutely no evidence that the Pawnee Indians were ever mound builders, used a charnel house for the dead, included grave goods with their burials, made the type of pottery found in the burial pit, or that they were very tall. NAGPRA protects the excavation of graves 26 “Salina, Kas., Oct – (AP) – Discovery of an Indian communal burial ground believed to contain the remains of a tribe that roamed the plains of central Kansas more than 5000 years ago, has been made five miles east of here by Guy T. Whiteford, policeman-archaeologists. Whiteford said he already has excavated 27 skulls and three complete skeletons, one of which he asserted was seven feet tall. The position of burial and ornaments found near the remains indicated the body was that of a chief, he said.” An update on the excavation of the burial mound describes the artifacts that were found as burial inclusions along with the large size of many of the skeletal remains. The Brooklyn Eagle, Nov. 24, 1936 “Excavating an Indian burial mound on his grandmother’s farm, Howard Kohr of Salina, Kas., unearthed 79 skeletons. With the bones were clay pots, grinding stones and shell knives for the use by the spirits in the next world.” www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Giant’s Burial Pit Controversy in Kansas (continued) The End of the Pit The Salina Journal, June 24, 1956 “Big Fellows: The bones show the prehistoric Indians were of remarkable size and strength. Many of the skeletons are those of men who were well over six feet in height. Most of the skeletons are doubled up in a flexed position resembling that of a fetus. A great number of them lie with their heads to the south and facing east. Price believes that possibly the Indians were sun-worshippers who believed the dead would be reborn again. Hence the bodies were buried so that they would be ready for re-birth.” Burials in a flexed position is more common in Hopewell burials in the western states of Illinois, Wisconsin, and Nebraska, opposed to the extended burials found in the Ohio Valley. The most common attribute of the Hopewell is that of sun-worshippers, which is revealed in the Kansas burials. This type of burial is in contrast to the Pawnee who buried their dead singularly in graves dug in sandy soil encased in a buffalo robe. The Salina Journal, June 11, 1972 Cemetery Draws Tourists, Protests One of the large male skeletons from the burial pit with Archaic attributes of the Maritime Archaic that include a protruding brow, sloping forehead and and a massive jaw. 27 John Price and his brother Howard, 73 have operated the graveyard as a public attraction since 1936, when the first graves on their hog ranch five miles east of Salina was discovered. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 The Giant’s Burial Pit Controversy in Kansas (continued) Exhibited are the remains of giant Indians believed to have lived in Kansas 800 years ago. “I can recall only two or three people in the last 37 years who didn’t think it was worth 50 cents.” The hog farmer admitted, however, that he has had complaints in recent months. “that bunch raisin hell in Wounded Knee stopped by here last fall,” said Price. “They claimed we’re violating the rights of Indians by displaying the bones.” “They said the skeletons were only 150 years old. They asked how’d we like it if our relatives were dug up and Indians charges admission for people to see them.” The Price brothers said they presented the Indians with documents from the Smithsonian Institution showing that carbon 14 tests taken of the skeletons indicated the burials took place about 1200 A.D. Dr. W. R. Wedel, Assistant Curator of Archaeology of the Smithsonian Institution, is convinced these burials are real Indians of unknown origin, but with resemblances to others previously found in Kansas and Nebraska. The Hopewellian artifacts and burial types would cause me to dispute the Smithsonian’s date of 1200 A.D. The Hopewell era ended around 500 B.C. The Pawnee are believed to have traveled north from their original homeland in Mexico to the Plains, when they arrived it was inhabited by the Sioux. This was the importance of the Pawnee’s claim that the remains were only 150 years old. The fact that Pawnee were not mound builders, the skull types, pottery, burial types, religion were all completely different, became irrelevant. In the end when it comes to NAPGRA, science and history, doesn’t matter. 28 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 L.A.: Well, I’m here with Jane… not her real name. We’ll just jump right into it. Jane first off, thanks for coming on the record with me. Something happened to you years ago. Can you tell me what it was? Jane: Well…. Do you want me to tell you about the first time I saw a UFO, when I was young? L.A.: I meet a lot of folks when I’m on the road speaking. Sometimes people come up to me and tell me stories that they’ve never shared with anyone else. It’s an honor to be trusted by these people and in some cases they allow me to interview them and come on the record. This is the case with Jane, not her real name. She was abducted when she was a teenager and this is her story. I’ve heard many stories like this over the years but the reason I continue to post them is because of the skepticism of many people in the church. I recently spoke in Maine and as I was introduced and made my way to the platform, one man got up and left. Of course this is the height of arrogance and ignorance, which is a very deadly combination. He has no idea of what is going on, but he “knows” he doesn’t want to know. The church can not continue to ignore the reality that something is going on. Simply put the UFO phenomenon is real, burgeoning and not going away. Yes. All that is good. Sure, why don’t we start with your first UFO. Jane: Down in the Outer Banks my parents had an ocean front house, and I shared a room with my little brother. I remember looking out the window and seeing a UFO. It was clearly not like a satellite or anything like that. I shook my little brother and said, Get up! Get up! You’ve got to look. He got up and he saw it with me. This was in my early teens. Maybe 12. L.A.: Okay. Jane: Later on, in the town I grew up in, in my parents house. I have my own bedroom, with a single bed. I sleep on my back and I wasn’t moving and all of a sudden I was going up. I think they change your molecular structure or something, so you can go through (the ceiling) L.A.: Let’s stop here. When you say go through… How old are you first of all? Here’s Jane’s story. Jane: My later teens. L. A. Marzulli writing this from 35,000 feet in the air flying home….! L.A.: 18… 19? Jane: 19. (pause) I didn’t have my dog. I got my dog when I was 18, so maybe 17 or 18. 29 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 L.A.: Let me ask you some questions. Were you dealing with drugs during this time? Were you dabbling with drugs? Jane: I wasn’t on anything at that time. (The time of the abduction) But I did backslide and I liked to party. So I did plenty of things in my day. L.A.: Okay. So prior to this incident your not high when this happened. Jane: Correct. L.A.: But you were partaking in drinking. Jane: It wasn’t the morning it was the night. It was late at night. L.A.: What time did you go to bed? Did you remember that? Jane: No. I always went to bed late when I was younger. L.A.: L.A.: Drug taking? Maybe 10… 11? Okay. So without putting words in your mouth. Let’s say a window between midnight and 4 in the morning. Some where in there? Jane: (pauses) Earlier than 4. Closer to midnight. Jane: Oh yea. But I wasn’t taking anything that night. L.A.: Okay. Jane: Yes. I would say so. Jane: Drinking. L.A.: L.A.: So you’re in your “normal” head, let’s say and this incident happens and your around 17. Your sleeping alone in your room? L.A.: Did you have any recollection of let’s say laying down, falling asleep, about to fall asleep, or were you asleep? Jane: Correct. Jane: That’s a good question. I wasn’t asleep when it happened. So it might have been when I was falling asleep? L.A.: L.A.: Okay. What happens next? Okay. Jane: I remember laying on a table. Jane: But I wasn’t asleep. L.A.: L.A.: Stop right there, before we get to the table part. Your laying in your bed. Jane: Yes. L.A.: What time of the night is it? Roughly. Any idea? Jane: It was dark. 30 Okay. Jane: Does that make sense? L.A.: Yes it does. And you’re laying on your back. Jane: Correct. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 L.A.: L.A.: You begin to what…. what happens next? But it was metallic? Jane: I wasn’t moving. I was perfectly still. I don’t know if I was able to move. I wasn’t moving I was very, very still. Very flat. And then. I was raised up. Jane: Yes. L.A.: Jane: Like the kind you would use in a commercial kitchen. When you say raised up, what do you mean by that? L.A.: Was it shiny, was it dull? Jane: Like going up towards my ceiling. L.A.: L.A.: Jane: It was not warm. There was no warmth. I felt the presence of evil. So you’re levitating and going up to the ceiling. Jane: Yeah. Yeah. L.A.: Did you have any thoughts why you were doing that? Jane: I don’t recall. But I did go through, (the ceiling) but I don’t recall. L.A.: Okay. Jane: Do you know what I’m saying? L.A.: I know exactly what you’re saying. So you go through the roof or the ceiling of the room. Jane: We had an attic and I don’t recall seeing that or seeing a roof. I don’t recall seeing around at the houses or anything like that. L.A.: You’re just taken up through the roof L.A.: So what does that mean when you say, I wasn’t able to move? Jane: Paralyzed? L.A.: Okay. Jane: Yes. I guess that’s the only way but…. You could move your eyes? Jane: I never thought about that….. yeah. You were on the table. Jane: It was like a stainless steel, but I don’t know if it was stainless steel. 31 When you say the presence of evil, what do you mean by that? Jane: Those were the gray ones. You could feel, like I guess you call it a charge? You can feel the presence of evil. On the table I was laying just perfectly flat. I didn’t even turn my head. I don’t recall being able to even move. L.A.: Jane: It was like, BOOM, and I’m on the table. L.A.: L.A.: Was it cold? Was it warm? L.A.: And when you moved your eyes what did you see? Jane: To my right was one of the gray ones. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 L.A.: When you say one of the gray ones, define that for me. L.A.: Are you happy that you’re there? Jane: The alien, but.. what humans call aliens. It wasn’t of this earth. It had that large head with those dark eyes that… kind of oval, kind of pointy. Jane: No. L.A.: Jane: I don’t recall if I was scared…. I don’t recall. I didn’t like it. I think I was more…. pissed. Almond shaped eyes? Jane: Yes. Yes. The little nose. The little chin. I didn’t see any speaking but they communicated. I forget what they said to me. It communicated to me, it said something to me, telepathically. L.A.: So they’re communicating with you telepathically. Jane: Correct. L.A.: L.A.: Could they have told you they had a mission for you a job for you? Are you scared? So you were angry? Jane: Yeah. L.A.: Telepathically. Jane: I don’t remember what they said and I forgot that even, huh? L.A.: L.A.: That’s good. Jane: That’s kind of how I am. L.A.: So you’re angry. You look over and see a gray. How tall is this being? Jane: It wasn’t that tall and it didn’t have any feminine qualities at all so I took it as masculine. I think it had like a white lab coat. It wasn’t naked I don’t think. That’s all I remember. Jane: I don’t recall. I felt like they were doing something medical. It was definitely something medical. L.A.: L.A.: Jane: It could have been. Okay. Are your clothes on or are they off at this point? Jane: I think I was fully naked. L.A.: Okay. Are you aware that I’ve heard this story many times before from other people. So you’re on the table and you have no clothes on. Jane: Yes. It wasn’t freezing, but there was no warmth. No warmth. 32 L.A.: Could it have been more like a jump suit rather than a lab coat? But you’re not sure? Jane: No. It’s been twenty-something years. L.A.: Did the coat have an insignia on it, did you notice? Jane: Not that I recall. L.A.: Did you notice its hands or its fingers. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 Jane: Long….. thin…… gray…… I want to say is was without the fifth digit. I just remember it just standing there. L.A.: Did any of these beings come close to your face or make eye contact with you? Jane: It didn’t get to close. I feel like something happened but I didn’t see. I feel like something might have happened. It was standing about two feet from me. It communicated to me but I don’t remember what it said. I tried to block it our. I was freaked out. Then all of a sudden I’m back in bed. L.A.: Has he had any contact that you know of, or that you’re aware of? Jane: Don’t know, he’s with the Lord now… L.A.: So you find yourself back in the room, upon awakening the next morning, did you fell sick. Did you feel okay? Did you have any symptoms. What did you do? How did you process what happened to you/ Jane: I don’t know. I was just happy to be in my brothers room. I don’t recall how I felt. I was upset. 33 Did you write anything down like a journal? Jane: I drew the gray alien in my book. L.A.: Do you still have that? Jane: No. Really. You gave it away? Jane: I think I may have thrown it out. Maybe I did save it. I could look around my house. L.A.: I would love to take a look at it if you could find it. Jane: I thought I threw it out. L.A.: It would be great to see the drawing. Jane: I had a lot of bad stuff happen to me, so I burned a lot of stuff. After that though, it did happen again. It did happen again? Jane: Almost. Jane: And that’s a good question. L.A.: L.A.: L.A.: I’m sorry to hear that. What time of the year was this, do you remember? Jane: No. I want to say the fall or winter. It think is was fall. I wasn’t in school the next day. L.A.: So you’re back in your bed. Jane: Back in my bed. I don’t know what happened, but I was back in my bed, with my clothes on. I was all freaked out. I was crying, I was praying. I went to my little brothers room. He had a bunk bed and I was closest with this brother, I told him I had bad dreams and asked if I could sleep in the bunk. This was the same brother that I saw the first UFO with. L.A.: L.A.: L.A.: Okay. Jane: And there was one other time, I was in upstate New York living with my aunt, and I was outside and I felt the presence of them. I didn’t see them. I don’t know if I lost time. www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 L.A.: Let me ask you this because there’s two other times you mentioned and that’s why I’m here to try to reel it in if I can. So the first time you’re taken, you come back and you’re in your brothers room. Jane: I woke up in my room. L.A.: L.A.: You woke up in your room but then you went into your brothers room. Did you notice the clock? Did you look at the clock. Would you say you had missing time? Was it much later than you thought it was? Jane: There was something to do with the time but I can’t remember. If it felt like a long time but it was a short time. There was something messed up with the time. Does that sound crazy? L.A.: No it doesn’t. So there was something wrong with the time. It was confusing and still is 20 years later. Jane: Yeah… L.A.: So the second time you’re taken. Travis Walton was taken. He thought he was gone for a few hours. He was gone for five days. So there’s a huge time dilation. Jane: So they can manipulate time L.A.: Absolutely. It’s a different time/space continuum than ours. So Travis is gone for five days, earth time but to him it seems like he’s only been gone a couple of hours. So for you we don’t know. Jane: It could have been many hours. I don’t know but I know it wasn’t more than a day because my parents would have been looking for me. L.A.: 34 Jane: Well. It was around the same time but I moved from my moms and lived upstate for a few months and they knew where I was. No matter what. That’s it. They knew where I was. So the second time you’re in upstate New York, you’re…. You said you could feel their presence, what did that feel like? Jane: You just know they’re there. L.A.: Did that make you feel happy? Jane: No. L.A.: How did it make you feel. Jane: I never thought about it. I didn’t like it. It annoyed me. It pissed me off. L.A.: This is why my wifey is here as I’m going to ask you a personal/female question. When you were taken the first time did you notice any interruption in your period? Any weird periods? Any excessive bleeding? Jane: I actually never really had one because I had an eating disorder when I was younger. If I ate a half of banana in a day that was a lot, and that went on for seven years. I was in a relationship with a man who was supposed to be a Christian but was very abusive. I really didn’t have much of a period. I basically didn’t have one because of my eating disorder. L.A.: So you feel them coming to get you again, did they in fact get you again? Jane: Upstate New York? Not that I know. But they might have done something because I was not compliant, I was pissed off at them. I was outside by myself in www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015 the woods. We lived with the state forest around us. There’s no neighbors. I don’t know (if they got me) L.A.: What about the third time? Jane: I came to realize that the name of Jesus had all power and authority. It hit me one day. I was like, oh my gosh. I was laying on my bed and I started going up and I started singing a song that I sung in my church. One that I learned in church. IN the name of Jesus. That broke everything and I was never bothered again. I was a senior at my parents house. I always had Jesus as my savior, but I as in a bad way. (Drug use) L.A.: So you were back-sliding? Jane: Yes, but it wasn’t that long though. It wasn’t that long and God smacked me down. It was when I was 19. Alright. Yeah, I moved to Florida and rededicated my life to Christ in church and I’ve been blessed since. L.A.: So they never came back? How far away was it from you. If you take your thumb and hold it in front of you, did it appear that size. Was the craft as big as your thumb nail. Jane: (Holds her hand out) About that size. L.A.: So you saw a metallic craft. So it was in the day time? Jane: It was in the summer time I had this sighting? L.A.: What was the second time? Jane: I want to say when they got me? L.A.: Can you describe the inside of the craft? Jane: There were no decorations or anything. It was all sterile. I want to say the gray was holding an instrument and it was shiny. Long slender or something. L.A.: Anything else? Jane: I don’t recall anything else. L.A.: Jane: No. L.A.: L.A.: You sang the Jesus song and you stopped the abduction. You’re a very brave woman and thanks for coming on the record. And the take-away for me was that when you called out to Jesus, a power greater than those who were abducting you and it stopped the abduction. Jane: Yes. Jane: It not only stopped. It was BAM it was done! L.A.: L.A.: I appreciate you coming on the record. Tell me about the UFO you saw in the beginning before you were taken. Thank you! I appreciate you coming on the record. Jane: You’re welcome. Jane: I saw it a couple of times. Bright, shining, metallic, moved slow. 35 www.lamarzulli.net May, 2015
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