How to Teach Commercial HVAC without a Commercial Lab Don Crawshaw

How to Teach Commercial HVAC
without a Commercial Lab
HVACR & Mechanical Conference
for Education Professionals
March 11 – 13, 2013
Colorado Springs, CO
Don Crawshaw
Pikes Peak Community College
HVAC Department Chairman/instructor
My Background
I taught Basic Electricity and Advance
Refrigeration at Intellitec College for 18
months
Lab Area of 500 Sqft
I have been at PPCC for three years now
Lab Area of 1000 Sqft
The real problem with teaching
commercial courses is…..
SPACE
The other problem is no matter
how much space you have....
We need more hands on
training in the lab!
So what do you do if you don't
have the space and/or equipment?
Go out into the community
That takes contacts
Former employers
Former service accounts
Advisory Committee
Former Students
So does that mean....
Field Trips???
How productive are field trips?
So instead of just a ...
Field Trip
Non-hands on
Troubleshooting Field
Trip
Refrigeration Problem
Compressor B-1 not running:
Refrigeration Problem
Compressor B-1 not running:
Amp Draw, L1 60 amps, L2 60 amps, L3 0
amps, L1 to L2 1.5 ohms, L1 to L3 infinite,
L2 – L3 infinite ,L1 to Ground infinite, L2
to Ground infinite, L3 to Ground infinite
Refrigeration Problem
Multi-Deck Dairy BR 12 to warm:
Refrigeration Problem
Multi-Deck Dairy BR 12 to warm:
Looking at Refrigeration Schedule it shows
that the Suction Evaporator Temperature for
BR 12 should be 25* (On R404a = 64#)
EPR set at 105#
Refrigeration Problem
Compressor A1 not running:
Refrigeration Problem
Compressor A1 not running:
Oil Pressure switch tripped on A1
No oil level in oil float of A1
Oil level at ½ glass in other compressor oil float
Oil level in Turboshed is at ½ glass
Refrigeration Problem
Compressors B-1, B-2 and B-3 running all the time will
not shut off:
Refrigeration Problem
Compressors B-1, B-2 and B-3 running all the time will
not shut off:
Refrigeration Problem
Compressors B-1, B-2 and B-3 running all the time will
not shut off:
Refrigeration Problem
Compressors B-1, B-2 and B-3 running all
the time will not shut off:
Pressure at Danfoss controller for Rack B shows
80#
Pressure at rack transducer shows 40#
Component ID
Shut off refrigerate going to Systems BR-9 to
BR 11:
Component ID
Oil Pump BR-4 and Oil Pump BR-5
Component ID
Receiver A-AR
Component ID
System A4, System B9, System A1, System B8
Local Campus Field Trips
Now you can't spend all your
time in the field...
Although I'm sure our
students wouldn't mind.
So what do we do in the
classroom?
They have got to understand the basics
Thermodynamics
Basic Refrigeration Cycle
Basic Electricity
Basic Heating
The first day of our Advance
class we start off with a test.
We want to see what they remember
We want to see what they forgot
We want to see what we forgot to teach
them
If your students are like mine they just love
to take test
Clickers
You can get honest results
The students don't have to feel bad if they
don't remember an answer
I am not as concerned as to what the student
knows as I am on what the group knows
You get instant feedback
Let's give it a try...
What else to do in the classroom?
What else to do in the classroom?
What else to do in the classroom?
Because we can’t do a lot of hands-on
training in out lab; we do a lot of mind
troubleshooting.
We give them a lot of mental problems to
solve.
Being able to think through a problem
before you arrive at the job site is very
important.
Refrigeration Schedule
Typical Fixture Parameters
What else to do in the classroom?
Service Call #2: A customer reports that the low
temperature reach-in cooler that had a burned
compressor last week is not cooling properly. The
food is beginning to thaw. The technician arrives
and examines the whole system. The evaporator
seems to be starving for refrigerant. When the
technician approaches the condensing unit in the
back of the store, he notices that the liquid line sight
glass is full with no bubbles. It is located before the
filter/drier.
What else to do in the classroom?
Service Call #3: A customer calls to indicate that
the medium-temperature walk-in cooler unit that
was just installed is running all the time and not
cooling the box. The technician goes the job and
looks it over. This is a new installation and was
just started up yesterday. The hermetic compressor
is sweating down the side of the housing. The
evaporator fan is operating, and the box is not
down to the cut-out point, so there is enough load
to boil the refrigerant to a vapor.
What else to do in the classroom?
Service Call #1: Grocery manager calls
and says that his main Grocery WI Freezer
(5C) doesn’t seem cold enough; their ice
cream seems too soft when they go to load
the cases on the floor.
What else to do in the classroom?
Service Call #1: Grocery manager calls
and says that his main Grocery WI Freezer
(5C) doesn’t seem cold enough; their ice
cream seems too soft when they go to load
the cases on the floor.
Strainer plugged in TXV
What else to do in the classroom?
Service Call #6: The grocery manager
calls and says the Deli manager is
complaining that his deli case (2H2) is very
warm.
What else to do in the classroom?
Service Call #6: The grocery manager
calls and says the Deli manager is
complaining that his deli case (2H2) is very
warm.
Case refrigerant lines are on the end of
the header and the rack is low on charge
so this case doesn’t get enough
refrigerant.
What else to do in the classroom?
System 2A has a suction pressure of 46#
and the discharge air’s temperature is
around 32*, but there seems to be low air
flow in the cases, you measure 150 F.P.M.,
the cases are off cycle defrost and warms up
3 times a day for a round 45 minutes.
What else to do in the classroom?
System 2A has a suction pressure of 46#
and the discharge air’s temperature is
around 32*, but there seems to be low air
flow in the cases, you measure 150 F.P.M.,
the cases are off cycle defrost and warms up
3 times a day for a round 45 minutes.
Dirty Honeycomb
What else to do in the classroom?
System 4A which hold frozen food has a
suction pressure of 10# and has hot gas
defrost, which warms up once a day for 30
minutes each.
What else to do in the classroom?
System 4A which hold frozen food has a
suction pressure of 10# and has hot gas
defrost, which warms up once a day for 30
minutes each.
Suction pressure set to low to make up
for too long defrost.
What else to do in the classroom?
Local Guest Speakers
What else to do in the classroom?
National Guest Speakers
Dave Boyd of Appion
Bob Dwyer, CO Training
What else to do in the classroom?
National Guest Speakers
Steve Coscia of Coscia
Communications
HVAC Customer
Soft Skills
HVAC Customer Soft Skills
We do try to use our lab as much
as we can
• We don’t have a lot of commercial lab
equipment
• Some of the equipment was in the lab when
I arrived
• Some was created out of other older units
• Some was bought with Perkins Funds
What else to do in the Lab?
Compressor Tear Down Lab (twice a year)
We use Copeland’s Compressor Service
DVD’s
The Compressors we tear down come from
local supply houses
No need to take up lab space storing
compressors
New Problems every time
A really great teaching tool
We just do the
best we can.
There are a lot more experts here
in this room
Now we want to
hear about the
ways that you
teach this to
your students.