Reader Questions Volume 12 Number 6 INSIDE: Puzzle Points Reader Questions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 Prostate Forum P.O. Box 6696 Charlottesville, VA 22906-6696 Phone: 434-220-3774 FAX: 434-974-6775 E--mail: [email protected] www.prostateforum.com Editor-in-Chief: Charles E. Myers, Jr., MD Publisher: Rose Sgarlat Myers, PT, PhD Managing Editor: Jessica Myers-Schecter Staff Editor/Contributing Writer: Rod Schecter Assistant Editor: Gabrielle Myers Prostate Forum is published in Charlottesville, VA by Rivanna Health Publications, Inc. Purpose: To provide useful, reliable, and current information about prostate cancer and its treatment in easy-tounderstand language. This information and the products and media advertised in this newsletter are advisory only; please consult your physician for specific medical or therapeutic advice. Subscriptions: Individual: $110.00/12 Print Issues Individual: $55.00/12 E-Issues Institutional: $170.00/12 Issues Institutional: $85.0/12 E-Issues Copyright October 2010 Rivanna Health Publications, Inc. All rights reserved. ISSN:1528-5235 With a vegetarian diet you need to watch carefully for carbohydrate excess. At AIDP, www.prostateteam.com, men with lymph node metastases who have failed Lupron have a greater than 80% survival at 3 years on second line hormonal therapy. I strongly recommend the shingles vaccine to my patients. You should also get the Pneumovax vaccine against pneumonia and remember to get the flu vaccine yearly. There is no evidence that BPH leads to prostate cancer or that the prevention of BPH would prevent prostate cancer. Based on my experience, I would guess that much of the adverse reputation that ketoconazole has results from accidental ingestion of ketoconazole with acetaminophen. At my clinic, the most effective treatment for rectal bleeding after radiation has been Leukine. Is there any hope for patients who have had non-nerve sparing surgery and salvage external beam radiation to recover some amount of penile function? Is there any basis for taking a drug like Levitra prior to an injection? It will be difficult for you to recover sexual function. Levitra, Cialis, or Viagra are not likely to be of much benefit. While injecting the penis might work, many men find that difficult to do mentally and many also find it quite painful. The vacuum pump can make the shots more effective. However, the most successful approach may well be a penile implant. Perhaps the best direction for you to take is to see a specialist in this area. I am 46 and just had open radical prostatectomy surgery performed at end of July. I haven’t had a PSA since my operation, but have one scheduled for the end of October. At the time of my diagnosis in May, Page 2 Volume 12 Number 6 my PSA was 2.7. In December 2009 it was 2.38. In December 2007 it was 1.19. I did not get a PSA in 2008. The pathology report was overall favorable. My Gleason was 3+3, bilateral from apex to mid portion. No extraprostatic extension, no seminal vesicle involvement, negative surgical margins, no vascular invasion. There was some (5%) perineural invasion (only tissue from the right bundle was removed) although adipose tissue, nerve, and ganglia from this bundle were negative. The bladder neck was also negative. There was a “tiny focus” of adenocarcinoma in the tissue of the portion anterior urethra that was removed during surgery. No lymph node dissection was performed. My surgeon was Dr. Herbert Lepor of NYU. I have three questions: 1. Is this truly a “good” report? I am somewhat concerned that it wasn’t a “clean” report. 2. I am taking all the supplements and vitamins (especially D, as it was very low at time of diagnosis) you recommend and adhering to a healthy diet with the idea of helping prevent a reoccurrence or to slow down progression if by some chance any cancer did escape. But I would like you to clarify your recommended dosage for fish oil of 4000 mg. I am taking Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega. The dosage on the bottle says 1000 mg per 2 softgels (containing 650mg EPA and 450mg DHA). Should I take 4x the amount of the serving size, meaning 8 softgels/day? 3. Can fish oil raise my triglyceride levels? I had blood work done at my GP’s office last week to check on my Vitamin D levels and they told me my triglycerides were high. This really surprised me because I’ve eaten healthier in the last 3 months than I ever have and I have never had high levels before in my life. I am eating VERY little animal protein—some chicken, a little bit of goat cheese in a salad for example. I eat a lot of vegetarian meals and some fish. First, let me say that Dr. Lepor is one of the best surgeons in the business. I do not usually think of reports as good or bad, but if I must I would say yours was good, but not perfect. By that I mean you have some risk of recurrence, but that is hard to quantify. I would recommend you continue to get your PSA done every 3 months for six years. As for fish oil, I usually recommend the Nordic Naturals Purified fish oil, 4,000 mg a day. That would provide just over 1,000 mg of fish omega 3 fatty acids. The Ultimate Omega is more concen- Prostate Forum trated, so just take enough to get 1,000 mg of DHA plus EPA. Fish oil decreases the serum triglyceride concentration; it does not increase it. The most common cause of high triglycerides would be too many carbohydrates: this is a common problem of a low fat diet and one of the reasons I never recommend such a diet. From your note, it does sound like that is what you have done. With a vegetarian diet in particular, you will need to watch carefully for carbohydrate excess. One major problem is the common American breakfast of cereal, milk, and fruit: this breakfast is largely just sugar and carbohydrate with inadequate protein and no healthy fats. A better breakfast might be 3/4 cup of Eggbeaters, 8 almonds, an apple and a glass of Concord grape juice. Alternatively, you could add almonds to the cereal along with 20 - 30 grams of soy protein isolate. Ironically, your triglycerides would be lower if you replaced some carbohydrate with chicken, fish or egg whites as well as heart healthy fats like olive oil, almonds, pistachios, avocados or hazelnuts. In a recent log post (http://askdrmyers.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/bpaplastics-prostate-cancer/) you mentioned staying away from plastic containers that were labeled with a #7. I noticed on the bottom of my bottle of POM Wonderful Pomegranate Juice that it is marked with a #1 and a #7. Can I assume that the benefits derived from the pomegranate juice outweigh the negatives involved in the #7 plastic used in the container? I think the better question would be why drink any pomegranate juice in such a plastic container. Either find a brand bottled in glass or consider one of the many pomegranate extract capsules. As an added benefit, the capsules have much less sugar. In fact, I have long recommended that my patients take the capsules because of the tendency for pomegranate juice to increase blood sugar. I have most commonly used the capsules from Life Extension, but the new capsule from POM Wonderful also now looks quite good. I was diagnosed with stage 3-4 prostate cancer one year ago. I have been on Lupron and Casodex and have received 44 radiation treatments. My PSA is at 0.0 with no bone intrusion although all three doctors I www.prostateforum.com Prostate Forum Volume 12 Number 6 consulted tell me it is metastatic and cannot be removed. My question is: How long does the hormone treatment usually keep the PSA down? I have been told anywhere from 12 -24 months. First, you really need to learn more about your disease. It was either stage 3 or 4, not 3-4. That is almost like being partially pregnant. You also always need to provide your Gleason and your PSA at diagnosis. What you have been told about the duration of hormonal response appears to be way, way off base. For example, if you had bone metastases limited to your pelvis and lower spine, median time to hormone-resistance is 4-5 years. You really need to read my book on hormonal therapy Beating Prostate Cancer, which you can order online at http://www.prostateforum.com/bookstore.html. If you have no bone metastases, then the median time to hormonal therapy may be closer to 10 years than 5 years. The combination of radiation therapy and hormonal therapy would usually be applied to patients with cancer that penetrated the prostate capsule or had invaded the seminal vesicles or had spread to the pelvic lymph nodes. In that case, properly done radiation will cure many patients. You need to completely master the details of your disease as I outline above. You then need to read Beating Prostate Cancer to get a better understanding of how best to control your disease. I am looking for help for my husband’s advanced prostate cancer. He was diagnosed in February 2008 with a Gleason 9 cancer. He had a prostatectomy in March 2008. He had 39 radiation treatments in January 2009 and has been on Zoladex every since. His PSA began rising again in April 2010 and 2 lymph nodes showed on CT scan in August 2010, disqualifying him from a clinical trial at Duke. They say nothing else can be done until the cancer progresses to his bones and then they’ll start chemotherapy next. The doctor said this would be in 2011. Is there anything we can do to slow the progression of the disease before it goes to his bones? This is pretty crazy. Reading this, I almost feel I have been transported back in time to 1999. In February of that year, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer that had invaded the seminal vesi- Page 3 cles on both sides and spread to the lymph nodes in the pelvis along the common iliac artery as well as one in the back of my abdomen. At the time, I was told that I would have advanced disease by five years and be dead by 10 years. It is now 11 years 7 months later and my PSA is less than 0.01 ng/ml. In 1999, that prediction was reasonable, though subsequent events proved otherwise. Today, it just makes me angry to hear such nonsense. In my case, one critical move that saved my life was to have the pelvic lymph nodes treated with radiation. I would ask why, eleven years later, it couldn’t be done for your husband? Second, we now have very effective second line hormonal therapy programs. At AIDP, www.prostateteam.com, men with lymph node metastases who have failed Lupron have a greater than 80% survival at 3 years on second line hormonal therapy. You need to get your husband into the hands of physicians who are more aggressive in the treatment of metastatic prostate cancer. Do you recommend the Shingles Vaccine for your patients who are actively on intermittent hormonal therapy and those who are in prostate cancer remission? My internist recommended that I be vaccinated since I turned 60 this summer and am considered by him to be “high risk”. I am not on any treatment at this time, but have seen a steady increase in my PSA in 2010 and will be treated again with Casodex and Avodart if my PSA reaches 2.0. Yes, I strongly recommend the shingles vaccine to my patients. I also made sure I got this vaccine myself. You should also get the Pneumovax vaccine against pneumonia and remember to get the flu vaccine yearly. If you are in the off phase of hormonal therapy, you should do what you can to slow the re-growth of the prostate cancer. I would strongly recommend you at least adopt a Mediterranean heart healthy diet free of red meat, cold cuts, and bacon. I also recommend you take enough vitamin D to make sure you are not deficient: this is best done with a blood test measuring the 25-hydroxyvitamin D3. At AIDP we have a much more comprehensive program that requires close monitoring of our patients, but then we try to keep our patients off hormonal therapy for as long as possible. Buy Beating Prostate Cancer online at www.prostateforum.com Page 4 Volume 12 Number 6 I am 68 years old and have been recently diagnosed with prostate cancer: (2 cores: 20% & 5%, T1C, both Gleason 3+3). My PSAs have increased .8 each of the last 3 years from 2.2 to 3.0 to 3.8. My urologist has suggested Active Surveillance with PSAs and DRE every 6 months as well as a yearly biopsy. I have researched surgery and radiation treatment, as well as surveillance, but I haven’t determined how my current health situation is relevant to my choice. I have had Type II diabetes for over 10 years, with occasional hypoglycemia, which makes control difficult. I have had 2 TURPS (the most recent in 2008, resulting in an emergency cystoscopy). I have ED, with some function remaining. In your opinion, what effect should these factors have on my treatment choice? I think your urologist makes a lot of sense. First, the facts available would seem to make you eligible for active surveillance. Second, with poorly controlled type II diabetes, you have a very significant illness that has a much poorer long-term survival than does a small Gleason 6 prostate cancer. For example, one recent British study involved patients with diabetes at your age range and with diabetes of similar duration and found median survival of 16 years. Over the next ten to twenty years, you are much more likely to die of your diabetes than you are of the prostate cancer. Gat and Gornish in Israel have published on a novel treatment for BPH that does not involve the prostate. I’m curious what you might know about the procedure. My Dad and Granddad each developed prostate cancer when they were my age. If the treatment can remedy BPH, can it also prevent eventual prostate cancer? My PSA is 0.3. Gat and Gornish propose that BPH progression is fueled by impaired drainage of venous blood from the testes. I would just note that there is no evidence that BPH leads to prostate cancer or that the prevention of BPH would prevent prostate cancer. Nor is there any reason to think that impaired testicular venous drainage causes progression of prostate cancer. Recent German studies based on the Heidelberg cohort of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition have focused on vitamin K2 as Prostate Forum potentially important in reducing the risk of advanced prostate cancer; the studies also identified cheese as a good source of vitamin K2. Many of us have avoided cheese for years due to the apparent added risk posed by dairy products for prostate cancer. In view of the recent partial easing of concern over consuming dairy products by prostate cancer patients and men at risk, do you consider vitamin K2 an emerging important nutrient for us, and how safe, on balance, is cheese for us? What is your opinion of cottage cheese for us? This is a great question for illustrating many of the issues I have been talking about over the years on how to look at scientific and medical data. The study in question gave a food-frequency questionnaire to 11, 319 men. This was used to estimate the intake of vitamin K1 and K2. I quote directly from the paper: “We observed a nonsignificant inverse association between total prostate cancer and total menaquinone (vitamin K2) intake.” First, I would note that the association was not statistically significant. Second, I would point out that using a foodfrequency questionnaire is not the same thing as actually measuring the amount in the food consumed nor the same thing as measuring the amount in the blood of the subjects. Each year, there are more than 5,000 papers published on prostate cancer. I would simply, as a matter of course, ignore studies this weak in design and ambiguous in the results generated. But even if you wanted to get vitamin K2 into your diet, cottage cheese would make a terrible source. Vitamin K2 is found, for the most part, only in cheeses fermented with propionibacteria, like Jarlsberg or Emmental. Cottage cheese is not fermented and contains no vitamin K2. You actually make K2 in your large intestines as part of the fermentation that takes place there. You will likely make more vitamin K2 in your large intestines in one day than you would find in several pounds of cottage cheese. In summary, this vitamin K paper does not alter my recommendations on cheese intake. I have read your comments to the fact that sugar does not feed prostate cancer in your newsletter (Prostate Forum Vol. 11 # 11 http://www.prostateforum.com/backissues.aspx?id=3011#11) and saw your vlog post on Buy Eating Your Way To Better Health online at www.prostateforum.com Prostate Forum Volume 12 Number 6 this subject http://askdrmyers. wordpress.com/2010/02/24/does-sugar-feed-cancer/. At the recent PCRI meeting last month, it was clear that Dr. Strum thinks that excess sugar will feed prostate cancer progression. Can you comment on the differences between two experts in the field? Dr. Strum is a real student of this disease and I always listen carefully to his ideas. I continue to stand by the position I took in the newsletter and vlog. However, I talked to Steve at the meeting and I think in actual practice we end up with our patients doing the same thing. We both agree that excess sugar and carbohydrate are very dangerous. We agree that in America today, excess sugar and carbohydrate intake plays a large role in the epidemic of obesity, diabetes, hypertension and heart disease. We also agree that men who are on hormonal therapy are at high risk for insulin resistance leading to obesity, diabetes, hypertension and heart disease. I start by telling my patients that no more than 40% of the calories at any meal should be from carbohydrate and that high glycemic index foods should be avoided (see www.glycemicindex.com for more information on the gylcemic load of most food items). I recommend 8 almonds or a tablespoon of nuts like pistachios or hazelnuts, half an avocado or tablespoon of olive, avocado, almond or avocado oil with each meal. It is important to realize that people vary dramatically in how well they can use fat versus carbohydrate as energy sources. Gene profiling will soon give us a way to tailor diets to the genetics of each patient. For now, we need to use fairly primitive tools. Barry Sears, in his early Zone Diet books advocated using the serum triglyceride divided by the HDL cholesterol as a rough index of insulin resistance and carbohydrate excess. This is based on the observation that carbohydrate excess and the resulting insulin resistance will increase the serum triglycerides and decrease the HDL or good cholesterol. I discussed this phenomenon in an earlier question on page : the patient went on a low fat vegetarian diet and subsequently saw a large jump in his triglycerides. The optimal ratio of triglyceride to HDL is 1 or 2. Diabetics often have ratios above 5. We follow this ratio and use it to tailor carbohydrate intake to fit each patient’s genetics. Page 5 While far from perfect, this is the most practical tool available today. At the PCRI meeting in early September, I was gratified to hear that Dr. Strum also uses the triglyceride to HDL ratio and has the same goals for this number. The end result is that our patients most likely end up with the same carbohydrate intake even though our views on sugar and prostate cancer differ. I have painful bone metastases and my doctor has put me on ketoconazole to treat the cancer. I have been given Vicodin and the label says that it contains acetaminophen. Since acetaminophen is also in Tylenol, does this mean that it is as dangerous to take Vicodin with ketoconazole as it would be to take Tylenol? First, let me congratulate you on reading labels so carefully. Yes, Vicodin is dangerous to take with ketoconazole because it has acetaminophen in it. While marketing would lead you to believe that Tylenol is a safe alternative for pain relief, this is not the case. Recent articles have pointed out that the active ingredient in Tylenol, acetaminophen, is probably the major cause of liver failure and liver transplant in America. As ketoconazole is also a liver toxin, the combination of Tylenol and ketoconazole is particularly dangerous. However, acetaminophen is not only found in Tylenol, but is added to a wide range of medicines used for pain, symptoms of viral infections and even sleep medicines. There are more than 600 over-the-counter preparations with acetaminophen added. Table 1 on the next page lists some of these medicines. Because many Prostate Forum readers are from outside the United States, I have included some of the more common medicines containing acetaminophen from Europe and Asia. Because this list is incomplete, please look at the label of any new drug you plan to take if you are on ketoconazole. Based on my experience, I would guess that much of the adverse reputation that ketoconazole has results from accidental ingestion of ketoconazole with acetaminophen. I had radiation therapy and now I have rectal bleeding. What can be done about this? This question takes me back to the fall of 2000 when I had to go on medical leave from work www.prostateforum.com Page 6 Volume 12 Number 6 Table 1. Medications With Added Acetaminophen Percocet Vicodin Darvocet Syndol Mersondol Paracetamol Panadol Anacin-3 Tempra Datril Acamol Efferalgan Doliprane Excedrin Alka-Selzer Plus Various Benadryl combinatinos Contac Midol Various Robitussin combinations Sinutab Sudafed Tavist TheraFlu Triaminic Vicks NyQuil because of rectal bleeding. I quickly had to become an expert in this problem! The severity can range from occasional spotting to massive bleeding and the treatments must vary to accommodate the severity. First, you need to be sure that this is due to radiation. Many men with this complaint have internal hemorrhoids as the cause of bleeding. If this is the case, then treatment should be aimed at treating that problem. Your family doctor can advise you on this matter. If radiation damage to the rectum or sigmoid colon is causing the bleeding, this is usually from a network of fragile blood vessels on the bowel surface. The medical term for this network of fragile blood vessels is telangectasia. If your symptoms are mild, there are some simple things you can do to protect those fragile blood vessels. First, keep your stool soft by eating enough fiber. If fiber alone will not do the trick, Prostate Forum simply add magnesium to your diet. Somewhere between 300-500 mg with each meal is enough for most patients. (You know the magnesium dose is too high if you get diarrhea.) The lining of the bowel is coated with mucus that allows the stool to slip by without abrading the bowels surface. This mucus is made up of glucosamine molecules linked like beads on a chain. Radiation damage causes less mucus to be produced, making it more likely that stool will abrade the telangectasia. I have found that 1,000-2,000 mg of glucosamine sulfate with each meal and at bedtime can often lessen mild bleeding. If this is going to help, it does so within 72 hours. Similarly, if you stop it, you will return to your previous state within 72 hours or so. The point is that this is not a cure, but merely putting a band-aid on the problem. For more severe bleeding, laser coagulation of the telangectasia will reduce or stop it. However, in many men the telangectasia will return and they will resume bleeding after a period of time. I have had men undergo laser coagulation multiple times before the bleeding was under durable control. Hyperbaric oxygen treatments work for some patients. This involves entering a hyperbaric chamber—which is impossible if you fear closed spaces. There the pressure is increased to twice atmospheric pressure. This typically will be done once a day for at least 45 days. The high pressure delivers oxygen to the tissues and this aids healing. Again, many men will relapse and need to be treated several times. At my clinic, the most effective treatment has been Leukine. We have found that thirty days of Leukine treatment will dramatically decrease bleeding in nearly all patients. Again, it is fairly common for bleeding to resume after a period of time and re-treatment is usually effective. In my own case, it was Leukine that finally solved my problem. Please comment on the effect of marijuana on fatigue. I got this question at the recent PCRI conference. As background, Medical marijuana is now legal in California. After the meeting, my wife Rose and I went for a walk along the beach in Venice. If you do not know Venice, California, it has a distinct counterculture aura. As you might expect, legaliza- www.prostateforum.com Page 7 Volume 7 Number 1 tion of marijuana appears to have hit this town like a tornado. Along the beach there were multiple shops where you could purchase marijuana if you had a prescription. Many of these shops had a doctor available to write the prescriptions and a list of complaints for which the doctor could write the prescription. The implication was that you had only to manufacture the right complaint and you would legally obtain marijuana. In this atmosphere, it appears that this drug can solve most of life’s problems. Well, it is a good general rule that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is. Many of the supposed benefits of marijuana are bogus. The use of marijuana for fatigue is one of the bogus uses of this drug. The best I can say about this is that you will likely be mellow enough that you will not mind the fatigue. I should also point out that THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, is available everywhere in the US as Marinol. In the USA, Marinol is a Schedule III drug, available by prescription. As a Schedule III drug, it is considered non-narcotic and by definition to have a low risk of addiction, either physical or mental. It is approved for the anorexia of AIDS. It is also approved for nausea and vomiting caused by cancer chemotherapy. I have used it for cachexia (wasting) in patents with advanced cancer and for nausea and vomiting from chemotherapy. While it has proved useful for cachexia, I think there are much better prescription drugs for chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting. Even strong ginger tea seems more effective for nausea and vomiting. I have received quite a few questions on how to do intermittent hormonal therapy. When should this treatment be started? Should Casodex be started first? How long should hormonal therapy continue? How do you manage the period of time off hormonal therapy? It is important to understand that intermittent hormonal therapy has been done in several different ways. There are no randomized controlled trials comparing these different methods. As a result, I have tried to make the best decisions on incomplete information. If you want a more complete discussion my book, Beating Prostate Cancer goes into great detail on hormonal therapy. Prostate Forum When we do hormonal therapy at AIDP, we usually do triple blockade, which means combining Eligard, Lupron, Trelstar or Zoladex with Casodex and Avodart. I like this combination because it results in the most rapid and complete decline in PSA and shrinkage of the prostate gland. Also, the best reported results from intermittent hormonal therapy are from Drs Leibowitz and Strum, both of whom used triple blockade. If given once a day, it can take up to a week for Casodex blood levels to reach the therapeutic range. However, a loading dose of three Casodex should give a therapeutic blood level within 24 hours. Depending on the clinical situation, we will do Casodex daily for a week or more or use the loading dose. In patients with hormone-sensitive cancer, it is common to see a very dramatic drop in PSA so that many newly diagnosed patients will have a PSA less than 0.01 ng/ml in 3-4 months. If the PSA stops falling, we will either increase the Casodex dose to two or three per day or go to second line hormonal therapy. In any case, we do not regard hormonal therapy as successful unless the PSA drops below 0.01 ng/ml. More recently, we have also asked that bone metastatic disease and lymph node enlargement normalize. For example, if at 6 months the PSA is less than 0.01 ng/ml, but bone metastasis show no healing, we will consider the switch to second line hormonal therapy. If the patient has five or fewer bone metastases, we will consider referring the patient for radiation therapy to the bone lesions, but will ask that the dose be 45-50 Gy, not a palliative dose of 20-30 Gy. If everything has gone well, the patient will be in remission by the end of one year. At that point, we would stop Lupron or related injections and the Casodex pill. Off hormonal therapy, we aim to slow the cancer re-growth. In practice, this means slowing the PSA doubling time. We would keep the patient on Avodart because it will speed the return of a normal testosterone level and, in our hands, slows the PSA doubling time. We also emphasize a Mediterranean heart healthy diet. First, this diet has been shown to reverse insulin resistance and hypertension that are such a problem in men during hormonal therapy. Thus, this diet aids patients’ recovery from treatment. Second, one phase II clinical trial showed this diet slowed the PSA doubling time. We also emphasis exercise: both aerobic exer- www.prostateforum.com Prostate Forum Volume 7 Number 1 cise to lose weight and resistance exercise to rebuild muscle strength. If the patient has excellent cardiovascular health and blood pressure, we will consider Celebrex at 200 mg twice a day to further slow the growth of prostate cancer. We also monitor vitamin D blood levels and make sure the patient takes in enough vitamin D not to be deficient. We also use a panel of supplements, but I am reluctant to be too specific because my recommendations can change from month to month. Pomegranate capsules appear likely to be a durable member of our team, though. We also use antioxidants, but have recently dropped selenium and vitamin E and added resveratrol and curcumin. However, the choice of antioxidant may very well change as a result of some very interesting clinical trials currently in progress. In some patients, this program arrests prostate cancer progression and in those patients, they never need return to hormonal therapy. I have one patient who came off hormonal therapy in April 1997 and his PSA has remained undetectable ever since while his testosterone was normal by the end of 1998. However, the average time off hormonal therapy is 2 to 4 years. Our guidelines at AIDP for restarting hormonal therapy are based on the PSA doubling time. If the PSA doubling time is slower than one year, we will let the PSA go up to 5-10 ng/ml. If the PSA doubling time is faster than 3 months, we will often restart treatment when the PSA hits 1-2 ng/ml. As hormonal therapy can markedly worsen diabetes and heart disease, we will often delay hormonal therapy in order to gain better control over cholesterol, blood pressure or blood sugar. After all, it is not a success if the patient dies of a heart attack with an undetectable PSA! Most patients can go through 4-7 cycles of intermittent hormonal therapy before the cancer becomes resistant to testosterone suppression. We rarely do continuous hormonal therapy because the risk of heart disease, hypertension and diabetes is just unacceptable. Continuous hormonal therapy also causes other serious problems with long-term use, like loss of memory and cognitive function, depression, and progressive muscle wasting. Finally, men on continuous hormonal blockade just seem to age much more rapidly. Page 8 I have a newly diagnosed stage T2C, Gleason 3+4=7. I have been on replacement with testosterone and human growth hormone. I have stopped testosterone, should I also stop human growth hormone? I am going to be blunt. It is crazy for men to be taking human growth hormone. This is often used to reverse aging. I think it does just the opposite. We are now in a time when real science is being done on aging. We have a group of well-characterized laboratory models of aging that have been chosen to cover most forms of life on this planet. The idea is that if something works across the spectrum of living things, it is also likely to work in humans. These models include yeast for single cell organisms, vinegar worm for invertebrates, fruit flies for insects, a short lived fish for vertebrates and the mouse for mammals. More recently, chimpanzee and monkey models have begun to be characterized. Across all of these models, increasing growth hormone and its product, IGF-1, speeds aging and shortens life span. If you artificially elevate growth hormone or IGF-1, you will get a temporary increase in muscle mass and vitality at the cost of long-term health. I am reminded of the cliché that the candle that burns the brightest, burns the shortest. To make matters worse, IGF-1 is wellestablished to fuel progression of most cancers. In the case of prostate cancer, the evidence is very strong. For example, mutations that activate the IGF-1 pathway play a role in the development of resistance to hormonal therapy and chemotherapy. Targeting the IGF-1 pathway is a hot area for new cancer drug development. Diets like the Mediterranean diet that slow prostate cancer progression also reduce serum IGF-1 levels. So, yes stop taking human growth hormone. Also, anyone who is reading this newsletter, please stop taking human growth hormone unless your doctor can provide a powerful reason why you should remain on it. Also, avoid any over-thecounter supplement marketed to increase your IGF1 blood level or trigger growth hormone release. I am on active surveillance and have been taking Avodart as part of that program. I am experiencing a decrease in sex drive from Avodart. What can I do? www.prostateforum.com Prostate Forum Volume 12 Number 6 Avodart is used to lower the dihydrotestosterone level. The lower dihydrotestosterone is thought, reasonably to my mind, to slow progression of low grade prostate cancer and may even lessen the development of new prostate cancers. Because of my background as a clinical pharmacologist, I always look for a means to monitor if a drug is doing what it is intended to do. Thus, we routinely measure dihydrotestosterone in men on Avodart and try to keep the level below 5 ng/dL. We find that after 6-12 months, it is possible to gradually taper the dose of Avodart. We will first Page 9 go to Monday, Wednesday and Friday. After 3-4 months, if the dihydrotestosterone remains below 5 ng/dL, we will then go to Tuesday and Thursday. Some men can even go to one pill a week and still keep the level below 5 ng/dL. As the Avodart dose is decreased, the adverse impact on sex drive lessens. The other option is to drop Avodart as part of your Active Surveillance program. 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