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DATE OF MEETING:
TC 2.6
Sound and Vibration Control
January 25, 2010
DATE:
MEMBERS PRESENT
YEAR APPTD
YEAR APPTD
VOTING
John Gierzak
Robert Hassler
Robert Lilkendey
Jerry Lilly
Matthew Murello
Patrick Oliver
Kim Osborn
Tom Paige
Chris Papadimos
Karl Peterman
Kenneth Roy
Jason Swan
Lily Wang
Jonathan Weinstein
CORRESPONDING
Curt Eichelberger
Mark Fly
Rad Ganesh
Patrick Marks
Neil Moiseev
Rich Peppin
Douglas Reynolds
Bill Rockwood
Zhiping Wang
Steve Wise
Randy Zimmerman
MEMBERS ABSENT
VOTING
Michael Froehlich
Robert Simmons
Matthew Stead
CORRESPONDING
Chuck Arnold
Francis Babineau
Mark Bastasch
Warren Blazier
Norm Broner
Duane Brown
Patrick Chinoda
John Dunlap
Ronald Eligator
Lew Goodfriend
Brian Guenther
Art Hallstrom
Joe Horesco
Reggie Keith
Howard Kingsbury
Jim Kline
Leon Kloostra
Will Kowald
Kevin Lai
Geoff Leventhall
Sally McInerny
Duane McLennan
Dustin Meredith
Alexander Michaud
Erik Miller-Klein
Andrew Mitchell
Emanuel Mouratidis
Ralph Muehleisen
Jose Nepomuceno
John Pappas
James Pooler
Mike Resetar
Eric Rosenberg
Erica Ryherd
Mark Schaffer
Ken Shook
John Sofra
Bill Stewart
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LOCATION: Orlando, FL
EX‐OFFICIO MEMBERS AND ADDITIONAL ATTENDANCE
Danny Abbate
Jenny Abney
David Bloom
Mike Brendel
Joseph Brooks
Nathan Busse
Franco Cincotti
Frank Forrest
Manfred Gerber
Larry Hopkins
John Iacobruis
Michael Keating
Tim Kuski
B.J. Landsberger
Siu-Kit (Eddie) Lau
Tim Mathson
Dustin Meredith
John Murphy
Raj Prime
Lauren Ronsse
Michael Schwab
Robert VanBecelaere
Greg Wagner
Donald Warick, Jr.
Distribution
All Members of the TC/TG/TRG
TAC Section Head: Charles Wilkin
TAC Chair: Craig Wray
All Committee Liasions: Paul Cabot, William
Atkinson, Kenneth Fulk, Frederic Genest, Mark
Fly, Carl Lawson, Howard McKew, John Wells III
Manager of Standards: Claire Ramspeck
Manager of Research & Technical Services:
Mike Vaughn
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Meeting Minutes for
ASHRAE Technical Committee 2.6 – Sound and Vibration
Monday, Jan 25, 2010
Attendance List
Main Meeting Minutes
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Subcommittee Reports
Attachment 1: Membership
Attachment 2: Research Subcommittee
Attachment 3: Programs Subcommittee
Attachment 4: Publications Subcommittee
Attachment 5: Webmaster Report
Attachment 6: Standards Subcommittee
Attachment 7: Liaisons
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Attendance List
Voting members:
John Gierzak
Robert Hassler
Robert Lilkendey
Jerry Lilly
Matthew Murello
Patrick Oliver
Kim Osborn
Tom Paige
Chris Papadimos
Karl Peterman
Kenneth Roy
Jason Swan
Lily Wang
Jonathan Weinstein
Metal Industries, Inc.
McGill AirFlow
Siebein Associates Inc
JGL Acoustics, Inc.
Lewis S Goodfriend & Associates
E. H. Price Limited
CES Group
Kinetics Noise Control, Inc.
The Papadimos Group, Inc.
Vibro-Acoustics
Armstrong World Industries
Sandy Brown Associates
Univ Of Nebraska Architec Engg
Industrial Acoustics Company
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Corresponding Members:
Curt Eichelberger
Mark Fly
Rad Ganesh
Patrick Marks
Neil Moiseev
Rich Peppin
Douglas Reynolds
Bill Rockwood
Zhiping Wang
Steve Wise
Randy Zimmerman
Johnson Controls
AAON
Twin City Fan Co.
Johnson Controls
Shen Milsom & Wilke Inc
Scantek, Inc
Univ Of Neveda, Las Vegas
Trane
Morrison Products, Inc.
Wise Associates
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Visitors:
Danny Abbate
Jenny Abney
David Bloom
Mike Brendel
Joseph Brooks
Nathan Busse
Franco Cincotti
Frank Forrest
Manfred Gerber
Larry Hopkins
John Iacobruis
Michael Keating
Tim Kuski
B.J. Landsberger
Siu-Kit (Eddie) Lau
Tim Mathson
Dustin Meredith
John Murphy
Raj Prime
Lauren Ronsse
Michael Schwab
Robert VanBecelaere
Greg Wagner
Donald Warick, Jr.
AHRI
Pennbarry
Mason Industries
Lau Industries
AMCA International, Inc.
Pennbarry
Comfri - USA
Pennbarry
Venmar CES
Huntair
Vibration Eliminator
Kinetics Noise Control, Inc
Greenheck
UNLV
Univ. of Nebraska - Lincoln
Greenheck
Trane
Jogram, Inc.
Mason Industries
Univ. of Nebraska
JBA Consulting Eng.
Ruskin
Morrison Products, Inc.
Vibration Eliminator Co Inc
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ASHRAE TC 2.6 Sound and Vibration Control
Main Committee Meeting Minutes
Monday, January 25, 2010, Orlando, FL
1. Call to order (Wang)
 Meeting called to order at 2:18 pm
2. Introduction of those present (All)
 Introductions around the room
 Total attendees:
 Voting members:
14
 Corresponding members: 11
 Visitors:
24
3. Confirmation of current voting members (Paige)
 Voting members present: 14 of 17 – sufficient for quorum.
4. Review and approval of the minutes (Wang)
 Lily solicited approval of Patrick’s minutes. No objections.
5. Secretary's report (Rockwood)
 Subcommittee chairs were asked to supply their respective minutes within 10 working days for
inclusion in the main meeting minutes. Please provide in electronic form to Bill Rockwood,
[email protected]
6. TC Chair's meeting report (Wang)

At the last Louisville meeting, the category of International members will become “Voting
Members Non-Quorum”. Every TC is allowed up to 2 members of that type.

The conference and expositions committee is discussing the possibility that they will stop making
program DVD’s. They have encountered resistance from people who don’t want to be recorded.
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There will be a new paper category to begin in Albuquerque – Conference Papers. A total of 76
abstracts for papers of this type were approved for Albuquerque. Paper requirements of this
category are between those for Seminars and Transactions, with a less rigorous review process
than the latter. Conference papers will be of maximum 8 pages, with a single-blind review, and
approval by two reviewers. Conference papers will be published in the same way as
Transactions.
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Chuck Wilkin noted that ASHRAE’s Strategic Plan is available. Suggestions are invited. CEC
conf expositions also looking for suggested tracks. See Lily if you would like to make
suggestions.
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Chuck Wilkin was Section 2 Head at Louisville. He missed the opportunity to thank Pat Marks for
his excellent service as 2.6 chair. He presented Pat with a certificate. The TC also presented
Pat with a gift book.
7. Chair's announcements and correspondence (Wang)
 See above.
8. Subcommittee reports (written reports to be provided to the Secretary)
8.1. Research Subcommittee (Eichelberger)
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See attached report from the subcommittee chair
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
Curt pointed out that Iain Walker, our research liaison, needs to be cc’d on all documents.
His email address is: [email protected]. We need to keep him in the loop early and often.
The strategic plan is open for comment through 2/22. The RAC assured us that all ideas for
research should come through the TC’s, and we are encouraged to keep driving input in our
area.
8.1.1. Research Chair’s meeting report
8.1.1.1. 2010-2015 ASHRAE Research Strategic Plan
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See subcommittee report.
8.1.2. Ongoing research projects
8.1.2.1. RP-1322 Performance, Perception and Criteria with PI Wang/UNL (Schaffer)
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Lily Wang at the University of Nebraska is the principle investigator. This project is near
completion. A final report to the PMS is expected soon.
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Two transaction papers submitted for the Albuquerque meeting.
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Expect final report mid March.
8.1.2.2. RP-1408 Attenuation of Lined Ducts with PI Reynolds/UNLV (Lilly)
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Doug Reynolds, UNLV, is the principle investigator. The objective of the research project
is to modify the incremental sound attenuation values in the Application Handbook to
show how they depend on duct length. Several types of fiberglass and non-fiberglass
configurations will be tested, with data down to 50 Hz.
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PMS members: Jerry Lilly (Chair), Mark Schaffer, John Gierzak, Kim Osborn, J. R.
Babineau and Rob Lilkendey. SMACNA liaison is Mark Terzingni.
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Expect flanking measurements in February. The PMS is planning a lab visit in March,
and expects to complete round duct testing by June. Rectangular duct tests should be
complete by December, and elbow and fittings test will follow. Several more months of
data presentation and analysis will be required. Expect completion Fall 2011.
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In order to validate analytical models for breakout noise, an extension to RP-1408 was
prepared and submitted to the RAC.
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Extension to conduct vibration and Lw intensity, for use in analytical modeling
TRP-1529. Expect vote from RAC this week.
8.1.3. Work Statements/RTAR’s/URP’s
8.1.3.1. TRP-1529 Numerical Modeling of Lined Ducts (Rockwood / Marks)
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This project will develop and validate full-frequency numerical modeling techniques for
sound transmission through, and radiation from, HVAC ductwork.
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The PES includes Bill Rockwood, Pat Marks, John Weinstein, Warren Blazier, Pat Oliver,
Neil Moiseev, Steve Wise and Chris Papadimos. Pat Marks will be leading the PES /
PMS starting in Feb.
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The work statement was approved by the TC, submitted, and returned by the RAC with
comments. Revisions are being made. Resubmission expected by 2/26/10, for review at
the RAC meeting 3/21.
8.1.3.2. RTAR-1560 Installed Performance of Vibration Isolators (Simmons)
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The principal author is Robert Simmons.
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The objective of this project is to measure the effectiveness of various common isolator
types in configurations representative of typical equipment installations.
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The RTAR was submitted and returned with comments. Robert will review the comments
and his proposed updates with Iain Walker prior to resubmission.
8.1.4.2. Effect of HVAC noise in hospitals (Roy and Babineau)
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New project w/ J.R. Babineau, looking at making evaluations of people’s perceptions of
noise in health care facilities, and matching up subjective sides of their experience with
objective data. The project may also be linked to health issues, and is expected to have
an impact on ANSI. This will be a two year program.
8.1.4. Topics for future research
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Tonal Noise (Paige): The effects of tones of various prominence ratios on human
perception. Tom revised an old RTAR. Lily will review and recommend a direction
moving forward.
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Fluctuations (Wang): Not much detail available yet.
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BIM Systems (Peterman, Roy): Three-dimensional building design. Looking to get a
start on the RTAR.
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System Effects on Silencers (Marks): Investigate pressure drop and sound de-rates in
actual installations. Draft RTAR available.
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Piping Noise from Equipment (Rockwood): Investigate both refrigerant and water piping.
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Other miscellaneous topics did not get voted on at the subcommittee meeting.
8.2. Programs Subcommittee (Papadimos)
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See attached report from the subcommittee chair
8.2.1. Programs at this meeting – THANKS!
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Seminar 1 -
Acoustics in High Performance Buildings (Karl Peterman)
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Seminar 10 -
Noise and the Mechanical System Design Process (Rob Lilkendey)
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Forum 7 -
(w/ TC 5.1 and 5.3) - Multiple Plenum Fans in an Array: What Are the
Advantages and Disadvantages? (Rad Ganesh)
8.2.2. Programs being considered for next meeting – Albuquerque, NM, June 2010
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Several programs, including transactions on noise and productivity (Ken)
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Seminar: resubmission of case studies in acoustics (Chris); seminar re HVAC noise in
classrooms (Lilkendey / Murello); forum – incorporating acoustics into BIM (Karl).
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Ideas solicited for contributors.
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Considering seminar on fan arrays to follow today’s forum – not sure about the track.
Other programs being considered for Las Vegas
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codes, standards, guidelines re green buildings (Karl)
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aerodynamic noise (Schaffer)
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abstracts for transactions due 4/10/10; seminar submissions due after Albuquerque
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note: Conference paper sessions are more likely to be accepted. In the past,
Transactions sessions were always approved an we expect that this still is the case.
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Conference paper sessions use the same presentation length as Seminars.
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Jason asked about Seminar 25, cooling towers. One paper was on sound. No one
was able to report.
8.3. Publications Subcommittee (Wise)
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See attached report from the subcommittee chair
8.3.1. Handbook chapters
8.3.1.1. Handbook Applications 2011 (Wise / Peppin)
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We are making good progress on the Applications Chapter resubmission. A few
significant updates are underway, and action items have been assigned.
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Within one week, Steve will issue a memo to each subsection. The subcommittee
members will then have until 3/21 to get material back to Steve.
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Steve made a solicitation for interest. To date, about 30 people have helped, and several
have provided tremendous help. We don’t really have an outside reviewer – someone
with fresh eyes – but would very much like to have someone to fill that role.
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On June 1, Rich Peppin and Steve will send out the latest draft for a vote by the TC.
Only very minor changes will be possible after that point.
8.3.2. Other publications
8.3.2.1. Acoustical Analysis CD (Guenther)
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The contractor (Bob Hanna) believes he is done and that the program is sellable.
The evaluation subcommittee has not yet confirmed this. ASHRAE wants to get this
program to market, but needs confirmation from the TC.
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Several working group members were able to review the code, but some weren’t. It
appears that the program (or perhaps instructions) are not yet complete.
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Within the next three weeks, Steve will offer all voting members access to the
program. He is planning on a webinar shortly after that, when the contractor will
explain how to run the program. We will try to record that session. We will need
feedback immediately, so we can either approve the program for sale or make
specific comments.
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Neil M commented about technical correctness and usability. One shouldn’t have to
read a book to know how to use the program. Jerry will propose a couple of
scenarios for execution by the reviewers, so we can confirm that the program works.
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We will try to get a vote by Albuquerque, but are not sure if that’s possible.
Apparently, the contractor is not willing to make changes to approved algorithms, but
will work on the user interface per direction from reviewers.
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Concern about updates was expressed. When we make improvements or changes
to handbook formulae or tables, the program is upgradeable to the new versions.
The question is, how do we know what algorithms were used? The Algorithms book
(which has in some cases changed)? Steve will work with Brian G to see how the
documentation will be handled.
8.3.2.2. Practical Guide 2nd Edition (Schaffer)
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Nothing to report.
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8.3.2.4. Pocket Guide
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Nothing to report.
8.3.2.5. Others – HPAC, ASHRAE Journal, NCEJ, etc.
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Nothing to report.
8.3.3. Web page and Yahoo Groups email (Moiseev)
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The web site was recently updated.
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Neil was not able to get to Mike Vaughn to get the URL in the ASHARE site to point to
the ASHRAE index page. Because of the amount of material we have, we can’t use
ASHRAE’s resources for everything. We have a page on ASHRAE’s server to redirect as
appropriate, but this is not yet functioning.
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Feel free to email Neil with suggestions as to what should be on the web page.
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Neil asked for past reports to be linked to the page – they should all be available through
ASHRAE web site for free, and accessible using the search engine.
8.4. Standards Subcommittee (Ronsse)
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See attached report from the subcommittee chair

Lauren Ronsse is developing a list of standards that apply to us at ASHRAE.

Chris asked about SPC 189 (Standard for the Design of High-Performance, Green Buildings).
We don’t have any representation on that committee, and are not sure how we get input to or
have influence on that standard. The system appears to be missing a key element in our
absence. This appears to be a weakness at ASHRAE: there’s no system for making sure
that proper TC experts are engaged in standard development.
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Standard 189.1 Commercial, and 189.2 Health Care.
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Lauren solicited volunteers – Chris Papadimos agreed to work with Lauren on these.
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SPC 200 – Method of Test for Chilled Beams – is requesting input from our TC. There are
two types of such systems: active and passive. Passive systems work by simple induction.
In active systems, water is moved through the beams. The advantage of the latter is that the
medium carrying the cooling is water, which is far more efficient than air. Neil will attempt to
find the time to work with this SPC.
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SPC 197 – Method of Test for Passive Vibration Isolators (Peterman)
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ANSI Working Group on Sound Measurement in Rooms (Lilly)
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Meeting tomorrow at 8:00 – 12:00. Initial work being done at Michigan tech.
Because the first meeting at Portland was very poorly attended, members agreed to
prepare material for the section(s) assigned to them. A draft section of the standard was
divided up to members and sent out for their input.
Update on ANSI S12.60 “Classroom Acoustics” standard revision (Ronsse)
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The committee is working to separate the standard into three parts: 1) Permanent
Classrooms, 2) Relocatable Classrooms, and 3) IT Equipment in Classrooms. The
revised document incorporated comments taken through 2/26. We submitted about 40 of
the 72 total comments. Many were addressed, such as measurement locations. The
group discussed spectral quality and a note relative to this was added. A short section on
audio system noise was also added.
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It was noted that the 35 dBA requirement is only applicable to fixed speed systems. 37
dBA is acceptable for variable speed systems at high speed.
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Anyone wishing to see the revised draft may contact Lauren.
8.5. Standing Subcommittees
8.5.1. Sound Criteria (Moiseev)

Because Neil was unable to chair this meeting, Steve Wise took over. He led a discussion on
how the handbook is leaning toward adding dBA and dBC to provide an indicator of sound
quality. A single number was recommended, with a range to allow for judgment.
8.5.2. Vibration Isolation (Simmons)
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Robert discussed the RTAR, and potential modifications to the handbook chapter.
8.6. Operations Subcommittee (Oliver)
8.6.1. Bylaws
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No activity
8.6.2. Honors and awards
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No activity
8.6.3. Long range planning
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No activity
8.6.4. Membership (Paige)
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See attached report from the subcommittee chair
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Currently, we have 15 voting members, and are allowed 17.
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We have 2 non-quorum members.
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After Albuquerque, 4 members will be rolling off. We will add 7 voting members, and 5 new
corresponding members. in 2010 / 2011, will have 18 voting members, 2 international
members, and 49 corresponding members.
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Deleted Duane Brown and Emmanuel Mouritidis.
8.6.5. Liaisons
8.6.5.1. ASHRAE TC 2.1 Physiology and Human Environment (Wang)
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Lilly is a voting member
8.6.5.2. ASHRAE TC 2.7 Seismic and Wind Restraint Design (Meisel)
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Meeting will be held tomorrow.
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There was a seminar today on wind loads.
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The Practical Guide to Seismic Design will be revised and published at the next meeting.
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8.6.5.3. ASHRAE TC 5.1 Fan Design and Application (Joe Brooks)
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Several research projects are complete or almost complete. The focus is inlet effects on
fans. Axial fans are done, the BI report is coming soon, the FC report is to be
recommended for approval today, and Plenum fans are still being bid.

Possible continuing projects include taking the measured inlet system effects data and
analyze them for trends, and providing a publication for data accessibility to others,
including the ISO committee on fans. Also, a wealth of data is available at the lab at UK /
REL. ISO TC-117 is being consulted for what is available.
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The Plenum Fan Array forum well attended.
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One of the main issues on research projects on system effects is the large quantity of
data collected. TC 5.1 needs help processing data related to sound. This is key because
it is going into the handbook. The main task they need help with is the one coming up
which will combine data from all different types of fans, analyze them, and distribute them
for use by engineers. They are looking for assistance, not someone to take charge.
They need some way to relate fan geometry changes to acoustic performance effects.
The data are still not in a user friendly form; the committee would like very much to nondimensionalize them. Curt, Kim and Greg Meeuwsen offered to help.
8.6.5.4. ASHRAE TC 5.2 Duct Design (*)
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No input.
8.6.5.4. ASHRAE TC 5.3 Room Air Distribution (*)
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No input for chilled beam project.
8.6.5.5. AHRI (Abbate)
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A list of standards was distributed.
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Need to include in the Appendix – [email protected]
AMCA (Joe Brooks); CRP (Paige)
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ASHRAE 268 – agreed to adopt is.
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Standard AMCA 310 is means of predicting sound performance of fans at different sizes
and speeds.
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AMCA 300 accuracy evaluation underway
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Looking at the certified ratings program – major reviews underway

Air curtain acoustic performance – used here and especially in Europe
ANSI (Eichelberger)
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Make sure ANSI is related to ISO.
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ISO 13261 is a version of AHRI-260. it adds intensity to the standard – much more
prevalent in Europe than in USA.
8.6.5.7. ANSI (Ronsse)
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No report.
8.6.5.8. ASA (Wang)
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Next meeting in Baltimore 4/23/10
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8.6.5.9. ASTM (Peppin); E33 (Paige)
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new standard 4 microphone transmission (ask rich about this. New 336 in-situ field
testis) for TL being revised. Test method for facades being revised.
8.6.5.10. ISO (Reynolds); ISO TC205 (Roy)
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E33 has 3 task forces: E477 duct silencers – looking at revs to existing methods. 2 –
acoustical louvers – new committee discussing test configurations. Readings taken
outdoors in free field environment,. Draft std shortly (Karl) – 3 – duct lagging IL – scope
expanded to include dust breakout (Lilly)
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ISO: new resolution from Kyoto based on PMP document here; meeting of US tag
tomorrow.
8.6.5.11. VISCMA (Simmons)
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Met on Saturday. Work continuing on seismic rating system
Others: CTI, INCE, NCAC, etc.
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No report.
9. New business/Old business
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Hot Topics:
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dBA / dBC – Group discussion on potential benefits of using dBA and dBC to help with
indoor criteria.
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Indoor noise – Ad hoc committee.
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End reflection – Jerry conducted tests which contradicted RP-1314.
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ASHRAE 130 – The test method gives Lw of the opening and not the item under test.
Subgroup will come up with wording to be suggested. Oliver and Eichelberger
volunteered to help.
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Inquiries re hot topics should be directed to Lily. She already has one topic for
Albuquerque.
10. Next meeting date and location – Albuquerque, NM – June 28, 2010
11. Adjournment 4:15 pm
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Attachment 1:
Membership Report: Tom Paige
Current Roster for 2009-2010
15 Voting Members (9 manufacturers, 5 consultants, 1 academic) – 3 vacant seats
2 International Members (2 consultants) – no vacant seats
48 Corresponding Members (20 manufacturers, 24 consultants, 4 academics)
179 Yahoo Groups Online Members
Upcoming Rollover Roster for 2010-2011 (Effective July 1, 2010)
The following 4 voting members will roll off and become corresponding members after
the Albuquerque meeting:
Michael Froehlich – Manufacturer
Jerry Lilly – Consultant
Kim Osborn – Manufacturer
Jonathan Weinstein – Manufacturer
The following 7 corresponding members will be upgraded to voting members after the
Albuquerque meeting:
Francis Babineau – Manufacturer
Warren Blazier – Consultant
Curt Eichelberger – Manufacturer
Neil Moiseev – Consultant
Rich Peppin – Consultant
Douglas Reynolds – Academic
Randy Zimmerman – Manufacturer
The following 2 corresponding members were deleted from the roster:
Duane Brown, Emanuel Mouritidis
The following 6 new applicants will become corresponding members:
Kevin Gaghan – Gaghan Mechanical Inc.
Manoj Khati – Kringer Ventilation Industries (India)
Siu-Kit Lau – University of Nebraska
Raj Prime – Mason Industries
Lauren Ronsse – University of Nebraska
Michael Schwob – JBA Consulting Engineers
Rollover Roster for 2010-2011
18 Voting Members (9 manufacturers, 7 consultants, 2 academic) – no vacant seats
2 International Members (2 consultants) – no vacant seats
49 Corresponding Members
Chair – Lily Wang
Vice-Chair – Patrick Oliver
Secretary – Bill Rockwood
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Attachment 2:
Research Subcommittee Report: Curt Eichelberger
Highlights of Research Chair’s meeting:
Reminder that our Research Liaison, Iain Walker ([email protected]), should review all RTARs
and WS. Please copy Curt Eichelberger ([email protected]) on all correspondence
with the Research Liaison.
2010 – 2015 ASHRAE Research Strategic Plan is available for comment on the ASHRAE web
site (http://www.ashrae.org/technology/page/39) through February 22. The plan will be submitted
for approval in the Summer.
Ongoing Research Projects:
RP-1322 Productivity and perception, Mark Schaffer, chair. Lily Wang, University of Nebraska,
principle investigator. Two Transaction papers were submitted for the Albuquerque meeting.
Final report should be submitted to the PMS by mid-March.
RP-1408 The effect of lining length on the insertion loss of acoustical duct liner. Jerry Lilly is
chair. Doug Reynolds, UNLV, is the principle investigator. The objective of the research is to
show how the sound attenuation of lined ducts depends on duct length. Flaking measurements of
the test facility will be started in February. Members of the PMS are planning to visit the UNLV
Lab in March. The preliminary schedule is to complete the round ducts by June 2010, the
rectangular ducts by December 2010 and the elbows and branch configurations by June 2011.
The data analysis and report preparation will be completed by August 2011.
RP-1408 Extension. An extension to the 1408 Work Statement was prepared and approved by
TC2.6, by letter ballot in January. The contract extension is to collect vibration and sound
intensity test data on a small subset of duct configurations. The purpose is to collect test data to
enhance the analytical models of breakout noise that we anticipate developing in TRP-1529. RAC
will vote on this contract extension Wednesday, 26, 2010.
Work Statements:
TRP-1529 Full frequency numerical modeling of sound transmission and radiation in lined ducts –
This project will develop and validate full-frequency numerical modeling techniques for sound
transmission through, and radiation from, HVAC ductwork. The Work Statement was returned
with comments from RAC in October, 2009. The WS is being revised by Bill Rockwood and Pat
Marks; and will be resubmitted for vote at the next RAC meeting on March 21, 2010.
RTARs:
RTAR-1560 Installed performance of vibration isolators – This RTAR as returned by RAC with
comments and is being revised by Robert Simmons. The next step is to review with our Research
Liaison and resubmit to RAC.
Effect of HVAC noise in hospitals – Ken Roy and J.R. Babineau prepared a draft RTAR. This is a
potential joint project with TC2.1 (Physiology & Human Environment) and TC9.6 (Health Care
Facilities). The next step is to finalize the draft and submit to the TC for letter ballot.
Topics discussed and prioritized by (# votes) for future research:
(11) Tones - Investigate the effects of tonal HVAC noise on humans. The objective would be to
determine the effect on human performance and perception for various tone prominence-ratios
(PR) and frequencies. Tom Paige revived an old RTAR and Lily Wang volunteered to review this
RTAR and existing literature; and recommend a direction moving forward.
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(8) Fluctuations – Champion: Lily Wang. Investigate the effects of time-fluctuating HVAC noise
on humans. Looking for someone to prepare an RTAR.
(8) Building Information modeling (BIM) – Champions: Karl Peterman and Ken Roy. Looking for
ideas to prepare an RTAR.
(7) System effects on silencers – Champions: Pat Marks, Pat Oliver, Tom Paige. Silencers are
tested/rated according to an ASTM standard in very ideal configurations. The objective of this
project would be to investigate the pressure drop and sound insertion loss de-rate in typical
applications. Also of interest is self generated noise. Draft RTAR is available.
(3) Piping noise from equipment – Champion: Bill Rockwood. Structure-borne noise in buildings
due to HVAC equipment piping installations (refrigerant and water piping).
(0) Review the Room Corrections – Objective would be to review the room effect calculations
that exist in the Application Handbook. Bill Rockwood suggested that much of this work could be
performed with predictive models.
(0) Fan-elbow effects – Various ideas were discussed on how to eliminate uncertainties inherent
in the RP-1219 testing so that future research might lead to better confidence in the results.
(0) Noise generation in ducts – Champion: Hywel Davies, CIBSE, UK. Possible project with
TC5.2 and CIBSE. Purpose is to quantify noise generation in ducts and fittings for various duct
layouts. Motivation is to understand the relationship between energy use in ducted systems and
noise generation. Ralph Muehleisen and Doug Reynolds volunteered to review the literature to
determine if existing flow noise generation theory in ducts and fittings may need validation with
experimental work.
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Attachment 3:
Programs Subcommittee Report: Chris Papadimos
This Meeting – Orlando, FL, Jan 23-27, 2010
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Theme: Building Sustainability from the Inside Out
Two TC 2.6 sponsored seminars for this conference well attended:
o Acoustics for High Performance Buildings (Peterman)
o Noise and the Mechanical Systems Design Process (Lilkendey)
Forum 7 on Multiple Fan Arrays – Advantages and Disadvantages (Ganesh)
Sponsors: TC 5.1/2.6/5.9
Next Annual Meeting – Albuquerque, NM, June 26-30, 2010

Theme: Raising Efficiency to New Levels
http://ashraem.confex.com/ashraem/s10/cfp.cgi
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The submission deadline is Friday, February 12, 2010
Forum (1 moderator - 60 min, no presentations)
Seminar (1-2 presentations - 60min; 3-4 presentations - 90 min)
Technical Paper Session (only for reviewed and approved technical papers)
Poster Paper (only for reviewed and approved technical papers)
Conference Paper Session (only for reviewed and approved conference papers)
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The technical program is organized under the following tracks:
Track 1: What Is Sustainable Anyway?
Track 2: Energy Facts and Simulation Track
Track 3: Ventilation Systems
Track 4: Refrigeration for the Future
Track 5: Central Plant Systems
Track 6: BIM/CAD/Paper and Pencils
Track 7: Energy Conservation vs. New Generation
Track 8: Living with HVAC&R Systems
Track 9: High Efficiency HVAC Systems
Track 10: Professional Skills
Track 11: Data Center and High Density Cooling
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Programs to consider:
Type
Transaction
Seminar
Track
N/A
8
Date
TBD
6/27/10
Time
TBD
8:00 AM
Seminar
8
6/27/10
11:00 AM
Forum
6
6/28/10
11:00 AM
Subject
Noise and Productivity (RP 1322)
Unique Case Studies in Acoustics
(Gorton, Wowk, Clemente, Davis)
Acoustic Considerations for Classrooms
(Lilkendey, Murello, Swan, …)
How to integrate acoustics in BIM
Next Winter Meeting – Las Vegas, NV, Jan 29 – Feb 2, 2011

Theme: Zero Energy Design
Chair
Ken Roy
Chris
Papadimos
Rob
Lilkendey
Karl
Peterman
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http://www.conferencetoolbox.org/ASHRAE2011/TechnicalTracks.cfm
The 2011 ASHRAE Winter Conference will feature more market-based papers and programs
than in previous technology-driven ASHRAE conferences.
In addition, the conference will include traditional full-length Technical papers (previously known
as Transactions Papers) as well as a new Conference paper format, which requires an abstract
and, upon approval, a paper.
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Submission deadlines for Seminars and Forums: shortly after Albuquerque (July 2010)

The technical program is organized under the following tracks:
Track 1 Codes and Standards in the HVAC&R Industry
Track 2 Integrated Design
Track 3 Low Energy Design
Track 4 Refrigeration Update
Track 5 Industrial HVAC&R
Track 6 Net Zero Energy
Track 7 HVAC Systems and Equipment
Track 8 Professional Skills
Track 9 HVAC Fundamentals and Applications
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Possible Programs:
Type
Seminar
Track
1
Date
TBD
Time
TBD
Subject
Codes/Standards Guidelines
Chair
Ralph Muehleisen
Seminar
7
TBD
TBD
Chris Papadimos
Seminar
7
TBD
TBD
Sound and Vibration for Air
Handling Units with Fan Arrays
Aerodynamic Noise
Mark Schaffer
Seminar
8
TBD
TBD
Acoustical CD
Karl Peterman
Upcoming Meetings
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Annual Meeting 2011
o Theme:
Montreal - June 25 to 29, 2011
Net-Zero Buildings

Winter Meeting 2012
o Theme:
Chicago - Jan 21 to 25, 2012
Program Topics "In the Hopper"
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Miscellaneous program topics – listed in order of priority by vote in Orlando and as tentatively
assigned for upcoming conferences.
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Votes
18
11
11
9
5
4
4
4
3
3
3
2
2
1
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Subject
Codes, Standards and Guidelines (Las Vegas Seminar)
Leader
Ralph Muehleisen
BIM – how to integrate acoustics? (Forum for New Mexico)
Acoustical Calculations CD (Las Vegas Seminar)
HVAC Sound Control for Classrooms (New Mexico Seminar)
Vibration-Induced Noise
Basics: VAV box noise
Room Criteria + Noise Fluctuations
Flexible Couplings
Air handlers with fan arrays (Forum in Orlando to Seminar???)
Basics: Noise from Grilles, Registers, and Diffusers
Green Products for Acoustical Applications
Case Studies for Acoustics (New Mexico Seminar)
Aerodynamics Noise (Las Vegas Seminar)
Relationship between IEQ/Comfort and green buildings (forum?)
Duct Breakout Noise
Fan Selection for Acoustics
Ductless Systems – PTAC’s, WSHP, Consoles, etc.
Outdoor Noise / Liabilities from Outdoor Noise
Commercial Refrigeration / Transportation
Noise Flanking Paths
Variable Capacity Compressors
Exhaust Noise
Tunnel Ventilation
Standard of test for seismic devices / isolation systems (w/ 2.7)
Lily Wang
Karl Peterman
Matt Murello
Karl Peterman
John Gierzak
Rich Peppin
Chris Papadimos
Pat Marks
Mark Schaffer
Chris Papadimos
Chris Papadimos
Mark Schaffer
Warren Blazier
Doug Reynolds
Mark Schaffer
Jon Weinstein
Matt Murillo
Pat Marks
Rich Peppin
Bill Rockwood
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Attachment 4:
Publications Subcommittee Report: Steve Wise
Attendees: Rich Peppin, Patrick Oliver, Jerry Lilly, Mark Fly, Kim Osborn, Jon Weinstein, Tom Paige, Karl
Peterman, Pat Marks, Bill Rockwood, Neil Moiseev, Jason Swan, Curt Eichelberger, Ken Roy, Robert
Hassler, Manoj Khati, Eddie Lau, Angela Waters, Mike Schwob, Brian Reynolds, Robert Simmons, Doug
Reynolds, Don Warick, Jr., John Iocabellis
1. Coordination on other ASHRAE publications
a. The new publication “ASHRAE Performance Measurement Protocol”, done jointly with
CIBSE/USGBC/IESNA, has been completed due to efforts by Curt Eichelberger as host of a
volunteer group. This was described in Seminar 1 chaired by Karl Peterman.
b. ASHRAE 130 (terminal unit testing) was discussed with regard to end reflection adjustment factor.
Karl Peterman will pursue this topic.
c. Pat Marks and Curt Eichelberger discussed a new IgBC/ICC code document which has Section
909-Sound Transmission. This section has simple acoustical design rules, (e.g. minimum STC for
MER walls) and will be monitored as it develops to catch any conflicts with the ASHRAE
Handbook.
2. Ch8-Fundamentals
Jon Weinstein is coordinator. All is good.
3. Ch 47 – Applications
Rich Peppin is coordinator.
The major update for 2011 is in final stages, with formal TC vote in Albuquerque, June 2010.
At the Orlando meeting we gave an update of agreed changes and some 30 items that need
further work.
The schedule is as follows:
 Feb 1: e-mail to all volunteers regarding assignments, with the chapter divided into
sections.
 Mar 1: requested that all section volunteers get their substantial revisions submitted.
 Mar-Apr-May: compilations, figure checks, etc (99+% draft version of final document)
 Jun 1: A new completely updated version will be circulated to all corresponding TC
members.
 June Meeting, Albuquerque: TC 2.6 Vote
 Note: We are looking for fresh eyes from outside the TC to review the document for
 overall impact. So far, this list includes only John Murphy.
4. Acoustical CD
Attendees: Brian Guenther, Rich Peppin, Jerry Lilly, Mark Fly, Kim Osborn, Jon Weinstein, Tom
Paige, Karl Peterman, Pat Marks, Bill Rockwood, Neil Moiseev, Jason Swan, Curt Eichelberger,
Ken Roy, Robert Hassler, Manoj Khati, Mike Schwob, Doug Reynolds, Danny Abate
d. Brian Guenther summarized the status of the working group’s review to date.
 Some had trouble even launching the program
 Some found partial functionality. For example, for a scenario with ductborne noise, the
program would take input AHU noise data, compute duct attenuation, and predict sound
levels in the occupied space. This would work individually for both supply and return
paths, but, it was not obvious how to make the program add the two results together.
 Documentation of procedures, equations, data look-up tables, etc. is sporadic.
 In spite of the above, the contractor and ASHRAE believe the program is almost
complete.
d. The plan for going forward is:
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By ~Feb 15, we will send out to all TC correspondents an invitation to obtain the latest
copy of the software for evaluation. A new Working Group will be established from
responders.
The announcement memo will include a proposed Webinar with the contractor, Bob
Hanna.
There will be 1-2 example scenarios for evaluation by all volunteers (to confirm we all get
the same answer). An each volunteer will also come up with their own additional
scenarios to double-check against their usual long-hand evaluations.
The contractor will confirm the latest rev of software, and create a list of each supporting
file, dll, equation, etc., that is used in the program.
It is hoped that the Webinar can be scheduled in February, and reviewers will be given
about 1 month to test the program. Until we get their feedback ~April 1, it is not possible
to estimate a completion date for final program revisions and TC vote for approval of
ASHRAE release.
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Attachment 5:
Webmaster Report – Neil Moiseev
The web page is still up and running. We have an index page on the ASHRAE server, however, the
ASHRAE website still does not point to it. I will again contact ASHRAE to formally change the link of the
TC 2.6 page.
URL:
http://tc26.ashraeregion7.org/
I welcome input as to things people would like to see on the web site, comments on existing conditions
and content. Again I am ask for your help in improving the site and making it more useful to people.
Curt Eichelberger is pursuing getting a listing of all TC 2.6 sponsored research to place on the web site.
This list will include the following: Subject, Date of published report, principal investigator, sources for the
report papers. Hope to get the out of print final reports placed on the website.
I need to ask Mike Vaughn in re how to get these listings and whether this would be permissible.
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Attachment 6:
Standards Subcommittee Report: Lauren Ronsse
I. New Standards Activity
a. SPC 197 – Method of Test for Passive Vibration Isolators (Peterman)
b. ANSI Working Group on Sound Measurement in Rooms (Lilly)
c. BSR/ASA S12.60-201X “Acoustical Performance Criteria, Design Requirements, and Guidelines
for Schools, Part 1: Permanent, Site-Built Schools” update (Ronsse)
i. WG 52 has responded to the comments submitted by ASHRAE TC 2.6
ii. The response to comments and current draft is available for review until 2-26-10
iii. Contact Lauren Ronsse ([email protected]) if you would like to receive a copy of the
current draft to review
d. ANSI/ASHRAE/USGBC/IES Standard 189.1 – 2009 for the Design of High-Performance Green
Buildings (Papadimos)
i. Preview of standard available online at:
http://www.ashrae.org/greenstandard
ii. Only acoustical guidelines in standard are related to STC / OITC ratings
iii. User’s guide for standard still being developed (anticipated release date in June 2010)
II. Action Items
a. Develop and maintain a list of ASHRAE standards that reference sound and vibration control
issues and appoint a representative from TC 2.6 for each standard
b. Notify TC 2.6 members when each standard is up for review. Compile and submit comments from
TC 2.6 on standards.
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Attachment 7:
Liaison Reports
ASTM E33 – Tom Paige
There are 3 active E33 task groups of interest to TC 2.6:
1. Duct Silencers (E477): This task group is working on revisions to the existing test method that
will be balloted this year. A new silencer testing round robin will be conducted to assess the
improvements in the precision of the test method after the revisions.
2. Acoustical Louvers: A new test facility configuration was discussed for testing acoustical
louvers. The sound source room has an opening in the roof where the louver is mounted and the
readings are taken outdoors in a free-field environment. It will be an insertion loss test, measured
with and without a test specimen in the opening. A draft standard will be ready shortly. Karl
Peterman is the task-group chair.
3. Duct Lagging Insertion Loss: The scope of this standard was expanded to include duct
breakout measurements. Jerry Lilly will be the new task-group chair.
The next meeting of ASTM E33 will be held in St. Louis in May, 2010.
AHRI – Daniel Abbate
Standards recently approved by ANSI:
1. AHRI 270-2008 - Sound Performance Rating of Outdoor Unitary Equipment
2. AHRI 300-2008 – Sound Rating and Sound Transmission Loss of Packaged Terminal Equipment
3. AHRI 350-2008 – Sound Rating of Non-Ducted Indoor Air-Conditioning Equipment
4. AHRI 575-2008 – Method of Measuring Machinery Sound within an Equipment Space
Standards we finished since the summer 2009 ASHREA conference:
1. AHRI 250-2008 – Performance and Calibration of Reference Sound Sources
2. AHRI 280–2008 – Requirements for the Qualification of the Reverberation Rooms in the 63Hz
Octave Band
3. AHRI 885-2008 – Procedure for Estimating Occupied Space Sound Levels in the Application of
Air Terminals and Air Outlets
Standards currently being worked on
1. ISO 13261-3, Sound Power Rating of Air-Conditioning and Air-Source Heat Pump Equipment –
Part 3: Ducted Equipment
2. AHRI Standard 370-2001, Sound Rating of Large Outdoor Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning
Equipment.
3. Standard 260-2001, Sound Rating of Ducted Air Moving and Conditioning Equipment
4. Standard 275-1997, Application of Sound Rating Levels of Outdoor Unitary Equipment
5. ANSI/AHRI 530-2005, Rating of Sound and Vibration for Refrigerant Compressors
Discontinued
AHRI Guideline L, Assessing the Impact of Air-Conditioning Outdoor Sound Levels in the
Residential Community
If there are any questions, please contact Danny Abbate at AHRI.
[email protected]
703-524-8800 ext. 327
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ANSI – Lauren Ronsse
I. ANSI/ASA S12.60: Acoustical Performance Criteria, Design Requirements, and Guidelines for Schools
a. Reaffirmed in 2009
b. Work is well underway to separate this standard into a series of standards to address different issues
i. Part 1: Permanent, Site-Built Schools
Currently under review
ii. Part 2: Relocatable Classroom Factors (2009)
Available for free download
iii. Part 3: Informational Technology Equipment in Classrooms
Work underway
iv. Part 4: Informative Technical Report
Envisioned to cover topics previously included in ANSI/ASA S12.60 (R 2009) Annexes A, B, C,
D, F and G
Liaison Contacts – Neil Moiseev
Organization
Handbook Liaisons
Committee
Applications
Fundamentals
AHRI
Contact
Phone#
E-mail
703.524.8800
[email protected]
Robert Tillsdale
Duane P. Brown
ARI 260
Fan Sound
Power
Bill Rockwood
ARI 885
Terminal Box
Dan Int-hout
AMCA
AMCA
ADC
ANSI
ASA
Silencer testing
General
Tom Paige
Joe Brooks
[email protected]
[email protected]
Lauren Ronsse
Lily Wang
Tom Paige
(Rich Peppin)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
([email protected])
Robert Simmons
[email protected]
Karl Peterman
[email protected]
Paul Meisel
Robert Simmons
[email protected]
[email protected]
Lily Wang
(Doug Reynolds)
Joe Brooks
George Gamble
Brad Kansesh
[email protected]
([email protected])
ASTM E-33
VISCMA
SPC 197 -
ASHRAE TC 2.7
ASHRAE TC 5.2
ASHRAE TC 2.1
ASHRAE TC 5.1
Vibration
Isolation and
Seismic Control
Manufacturing
Assn
MOT for
Attenuation
Characteristics
of Vibration
Isolators
Seismic
Restraint
Duct Design
Human
Performance
Fans
[email protected]
214.789.3434
[email protected]
[email protected]
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Organization
ASHRAE TC 5.3
SPC 189.2
Committee
Contact
Room Air
Distribution
Design, Construction and Operation
of High-Performance Green Health
Care Facilities
Phone#
E-mail
J.R. Barbineau [email protected]