TEXAS LONE STAR CHAPTER / KOREAN WAR VETERANS
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HOUSTON, TX.
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MEMBER OF THE MONTH
This month's Member of the Month is Life Member 270-Vito Susca. Vito
has served the Texas Lone Star Chapter as Treasurer and Secretary on
many occasions, and also served as a Board Member through the years.
Vito was a member of the "Veterans on Patrol" at the Houston National
Cemetery for many years and has served on many Chapter events. You
could always count on Vito and his wife Marlene to attend the many Chapter events. Vito and Marlene also volunteer for many causes in their hometown of
Sugarland. Marlene has volunteered at one
of the local hospitals for many years and
Vito sometimes drives the community bus
for the aging people. Vito also teaches
classes at the local library.
Our Chapter is proud of members like the
Suscas'
CELEBRATION HONORING
KOREAN VETERANS
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The Eastside Veteran's - Crosby American Legion Post 658 - is honoring the Korean Veterans with a 3 day
celebration. All veterans are invited. This celebration is presented by Crosby ISD & Eastside Veteran's Celebration.
The dates are:
November 6th, Thursday
- 6:30 pm at Crosby Cougar Stadium with a rally honoring the Korean Veterans.
November 7th & 8th - BBQ Cook-Off & Friday Night Dance-Crosby
Fair & Rodeo Grounds
November 8th - PARADE 10:00 am (Parade route is starting and ending at Crosby High School)
OPENING CEREMONIES
11:30,
Dinner will be served immediately following opening ceremonies. BBQ plates are $10.00 each. All Veterans and 1 guest eat free.
For more information visit:
wvww.Eastside VeteransCelebration.com
REMAINS OF U.S. SOLDIERS BEING MOVED IN N. KOREA
By Hyung-Jin Kim
North Korea said recently that the remains of American soldiers killed during the Korean War were being neglected and "carried away en masse," in an apparent effort to pressure Washington to resume recover efforts that
could also lead to much-needed money for the impoverished country.
About 8,000 U.S. service members are listed as missing from the 1950-53 war, and some 5,300 of the missing
are believed to be in North Korea.
An unidentified North Korean military spokesman said in a state media dispatch that the remains of American
soldiers are "left here and there uncared and carried away en masse" because of building projects, land reorganization and flood damage.
The u.S. war remains "now look like no better than stones as land rezoning and other gigantic nature-remaking
projects made progress" in North Korea, the spokesman said "The Obama administration should not forget even
a moment the proverb saying that even a skeleton cries out of yearning for the homeland."
Analyst Chang Yong Seok at Seoul National University said the North's statement appears aimed at applying
pressure to U.S. politicians and officials ahead of November elections to resume the recovery project, which
could give the North a way to get foreign currency and improved ties with Washington.
The U.S. and North Korea, which don't have formal diplomatic relations, are still technically at war because the
Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty. The U.S. stations about 28,000 troops in South Korea to
help deter North Korean aggression.
North Korea has been seeking better ties with the outside world in what foreign analysts say is an attempt to lure
aid and investment to help revive its moribund economy. South Korean and U.S. officials have said the North
must first take steps toward nuclear disarmament before talks can resume.
DRAWING 10/16/2014
VETERAN'S
Carol Halferty
Zippered binder
Billie Blair
Book
Ruby Ehrlund
Peach Vodka
Bob Mitchell
Book
Manny Camero
Book & calendar
Frances Velasco
Lint rollers & calendar
Roger Morris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . Books & calendar
Max Johnson. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Book
Hank Daumann . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. ?
Jim Duncan
Pack of CD's & sleeves
Georgia Jackson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. ?
The 50/50 drawing was won by Roger Morris. Roger donated the winnings to The Warrior. Thank you Roger.
The items for the nights drawings were donated by: Dick
& Carol Halferty, Charlotte Henderson, Marlene Susca,
Nelda Napp and John & Georgia Jackson. Thank you everyone.
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Sock distribution at the VA Hospital, will
be Dec. 10th, 10:00 am. Please mark your
calendar and plan on being there to help pass out
socks to the patients.
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U. S. Army
DAY .....
Thank you for your service! Veterans Day is almost
here, and many restaurants and other businesses want to thank
you for your service. We have included a list of national offers.:
Nov. 9, 2014: McCormick & Schmick's-Free lunch or dinner from special menu
Nov. 10-13: Red Lobster. Free Appetizer from a select list
of appetizers.
Nov. 11: Applebee's - Free meal from special menu.
BJ's Restaurant & Brewhouse - Complimentary lunch up to
$9.95.
Chili's - Free lunch combo during lunch hour, or free meal
from special menu during dinner hour.
Country Cookin. - Free meal
Cotton Patch Cafe - Free meal (Proofof servicerequired)
Fire & Ice Grill & Bar - Free meal
Outback Steakhouse - Free Bloomin' Onion with a nonalcoholic beverage. Also receive 15% off your purchase from
Nov. 12-Dec 31, 2014.
Nov. 17,2014:
Golden Corral, Monday Nov. 17 (5pm-9pm) The 14th
annual Golden Corral Millitary Appreciation Monday dinner.
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For more information on free or reduced price menus, go to:
The Military Wallet-http://themilitarywallet.comlveteransday-free-meals-and-discounts/
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WEST NEPTUNE
Gene Ballard, son of Carlos and Martha, recently made a trip around the world, working on a Sea Drill.
Sea Drill is a deep water drilling company, and this year had a new technology drill ship manufactured by Samsung in Busan, Korea. The name of the Dual Drilling Ship is the
West Neptune, which will be drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, off
the coast of Louisiana.
The West Neptune is under contract for three years, and
has the capacity of drilling eleven thousand feet. Gene Ballard has
made two trips to Korea this year. The West Neptune has sailed
from Busan to Singapore, from Singapore to Mauritius in the Indian Ocean. Ballard flew to Houston thru Paris, France, for three
weeks off, and then will fly back to Johannesburg, Africa to
Walvis Bay to board the West Neptune on it's final voyage to the
Gulf of Mexico. They will arrive about the fifteenth of December,
where the Deep Water Drilling will begin.
Ballard is a Supply Coordination Manager.
AIRMEN MISSING FROM WW II ACCOUNTED FOR....
The Department of Defense POWlMissing Personnel Office announced that three U.S. servicemen, missing from World War II, have been accounted for and their remains are being returned to their families for burial
with full military honors.
Army Air Forces 1st Lt. William P. Cook, 27, of Alameda, Calif., Staff Sgt. Maurice J. Fevold 21 of Chicago and Sgt. Eric M. Honeyman, 21 of Alameda, Calif., have been accounted for and will be buried with full
military honors. Fevold will be buried Oct. 20 in Badger, Iowa and Cook will be buried Oct. 25 of Oakland, Calif.
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to be determined.
On Dec. 23, 1944, Cook along with
five other B-26G Marauder crew members
took off from Saint Quentin, France, on a
mission to bomb an enemy-held bridge in
Eller, Germany. The aircraft was shot down
by enemy anti-aircraft fire near Seffem, Germany, near the border with Belgium.
Following WW II, the Army Graves
Registration Command conducted extensive
field investigations and was unable to locate
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l the aircraft and the crew. In May 1949, it
was concluded the crew members were unrecoverable.
In 2006, a group of aviation researchers located the wreckage of a B-26G
Capt. Fong receiving the renear Allmuthen, Belgium and notified the U.S. Army Mortuary Affairs Activmains of 1st Lt. William P.
Cook.
ity-Europe.
In 2012 and 2013, JPAC teams excavated the crash site and recovered human remains and non-biological material evidence.
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Captain Florence Fong, U.S.A., will pick up the remains. and escort them to Oakland, and then to their
families. Capt. Fong recently retuned from duty in Afghanistan and is stationed
in Hawaii with the Army.
Capt. Fong is Carlos Ballard's niece, Flo, who most of us met at the
Christmas party two years ago
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"WARRIOR DONATIONS" Honor Roll for "July 2014 to July 2015"
The editors would like to acknowledge and thank the following members and patrons of the Warrior who have contributed in helping to defray some of the cost of printing and mailing. As you know, we now have the Warrior on line for those with computers,
but the Post Office has informed us that the cost of mailing has gone up, so we still need your help. We thank you for your generous
support and contributions. We will be usiug the funds received to defray the costs of the newsletter. The following
names will be published monthly through the July 2015 issue. Be sure and have your name included. Fill in the sponsor
card, seen below, or included in your newsletter, (those that are mailed) and return with your contribution. Thanks:
Your editors: Lee & Charlotte Henderson
Arnwine, L. C.
Ballard, Martha
Barnhart, Harvey
Bartee, Roslyn
Brast, Hazel
Conte, Tom
Duncan, Jim
Gambino, Sal
Goody, Richard
Hinojosa, R. V.
Johnson, Max
Lee, Johnney
Levine, Janice
McLendon, Max
Middlebrooks, Beverly
Moore, Ed
Morris, Roger
Munguia, Tony
Mulrooney, Maureen
Nittsche, Herb
Priger, Ray
Ramsey, Jeff
Sanford, R. B.
Shannon, Debbi
Sloane, Jane
Spencer, Milly
Velasco, David
Wallace, Pete
Watkins, Jim
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POTTY TRAINING DONE TEXAS STYLE!
A little three year old boy is sitting on the toilet. His mother thinks
he has been in there too long, so she goes in to see what's up. The
little boy is sitting on the toilet reading a...book. But about every
15 seconds or so, he puts the book down, grips onto the toilet seat
with his left hand and hits himself on top of his head with his right
hand.
His mother says: "Billy, are you all right? You've been in here for
a while."
Billy says: "I'm fine, Mommy, I just haven't gone potty yet."
Mother says: "Ok, you can stay here a few more minutes, but,
Billy, why are you hitting yourself on the head?"
Billy says: "Works for Ketchup."
ENJOY LIFE NOW
.IT HAS AN EXPlRA nON DATE!
Out of the mouths of children
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One day a little girl was sitting and watching her mother do the
dishes at the kitchen sink when she suddenly noticed that her
mother had several strands of white hair sticking out of her brunette head.
She looked at her mother and inquisitively asked, "Why are some
of your hairs white?"
Her mother replied, 'Well, every time that you do something
wrong and make me cry, one of my hairs turns white.'
The little girl thought about this revelation for a while and then
said, 'Mummy, how come all grandma's hairs are white?'
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TIME TO RENEW
Dues are $25.00 - Life Membership $200.00 - Send renewal to TLSC/KWV - POBox
802541 - Houston TX
77280-254l.
The following memberships are due November
1, 2014.
Walter G. Ballard M-780 IWalter H. Ballard M329
M-813 Albert Hollan
M397
Wayne Harrison
M555
Ed Moore
RENEWALS
Michael Dillick
Ralph Hockley
Jeff Ramsey
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NOVEMBER
2nd - Daylight Savings time ends
4th - Election Day
6th - Board Meeting-3
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7th - Luncheon - Honoring Korean vets
l Oth - U.S. Marine Corps established 1775
l lth - Veteran's Day
15th - Deadline to purchase Wreaths
20th - General Meeting 6 pm
22nd - 1963-Pres. J. F. Kennedy Assassinated
27th - Thanksgiving Day
DECEMBER
4th - Board Meeting - 3 pm
7th - Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day
10th - Socks-VA Hospital-10
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21st - Winter begins
25th - CHRISTMAS DAY
31st - NEW YEAR'S EVE
A strong person is able to admit that they bleed
just like everybody else.
MARK YOUR CALENDERS
A strong person will not let life harden their
hearts.
Friday, 7 November - Milsap Middle School on Huffmeister offHwy 290. Time-7:30 - 10:30
Chamber of Commerce Luncheon at the Omni Hotel
on Elridge at 1-10. 11:00 to 1:30.
A strong person will never take kindness for
weakness because they understand
A strong person will not let life harden their
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Saturday 8 November - a Parade honoring Korean Veterans will be held in Crosby. They have requested our
Color Guard and a list of names to publish in the program. DIRECTIONS line up at 08:30-09:00. Parade will
start at 10:00 at Crosby High School on FM2100, North
ofHWY90.
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Please purchase your wreath now,
because the deadline is Nov. 15th.
There is a deadline needed as the company up North
needs time to make all the wreaths ordered.
Price per Wreath:
$15.00
Mail donations to:
Texas Lone Star Chapter
P. O. BOX 802541
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Tuesday,
11 November-Spring
Forest
Middle
School, 14240 Memorial Drive. Veterans Day Celebration, breakfast and patriotic assembly, starts at 0800 hrs.
Send a photo by November 4th for their slideshow. Email them to [email protected],
or drop
them off at the schooL
Tuesday, 11 November - Harris County Pet, 4 Commissioner Jack Cagle, will host a tribute to Korean War
Veterans in Humble. A catered dinner of Turkey &
dressing etc ...followed by a patriotic concert 1600 - 2000
hrs.
Ca11281-893-3726
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THESE EVENTS ALL REQUIRE
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Peggy Wilmeth
Fred Ortiz
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Edwin Moore
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William & Mary Kennison",
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Oscar & Vendia MigI
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William & Mary Louise Maillet 59 years.. 11/26/1955
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'On Friday, 7 November, the West Houston Chamber of Commerce will host a luncheon honoring the Korean Veterans. Our Chairman of the Board, Dick Halferty will be one or two keynote speakers. The other
speaker will be Ambassador Suk-bum Park, Consul General of the Republic of Korea.
Past President and a current Director on our Board, Jim Duncan, will be recognized as a Heart of Service Honoree.
This event will be held at the Omni Hotel, 1-10 & Eldridge. This event is free for Korean Vets and the spouses
will be "comped" for the Luncheon. Event begins at 1100 hours.
We will have a table set up to promote our chapter and recruit new members.
CORRESPONDENCE ........•....
David & Frances Velasco, Thank you so much for sending us the book, "Korea Reborn. " Your thoughtful gesture was genuinely appreciated. Sorry we were unable
to attend the last session. Please let me know your cost
for the book and we will reimburse you for your cost.
(Mailing, book, etc.) We value your friendship! Selah
& Joe Mason.
Dear Charlotte & Lee,
Wish it (donation to Warrior) could be more. Ya'll do a
great job with The Warrior! Jim Watkins.
Jim, Thank you so much for the praise.
PUNS....
GRACIE GAMBINO IS AGAIN
SOLICITING FUNDS FOR THE
WREATHS
The little dynamite of a fund raiser, Gracie,
is once again on her campaign to raise
._. money for the Wreaths Across AmericaHouston. Last year, Gracie, by herself, surpassed the amount that the Lone Star Chapter raised.
Of curse, all money raised by her is put in with the
funds that the Chapter submits to the WAA-H campaign. It's just amazing that one person, a 13 year
old girl, can have the ability to raise such funds.
Gracie has a full school schedule this year, along
with band practice and all that goes with that.
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Good Luck Gracie! !!
U. S. MARINES
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LOYALTY
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FIDELITY
KEEPING IN TOUCH - SICK BAY
Vito & Marlene Susca and 10 of their closest friends are flying to San Juan P. R. on Nov. 1st, and going on a
Carnival cruise. They will be island hopping in the West Indies for a week. Have fun!!!
CONDOLENCES
CONDOLENCES
It is with great sadness that we remember our good
USAF.
~~ friend, Frank (Franko) Grochoske,
Franko has been battling cancer and was cancer free for
a year, until it reappeared in a :different location.
Franko passed away at home on October 11,2014.
A memorial service was held on Oct. 31st., at the
SPJST Czech Lodge Hall, 3609 Preston, Pasadena, Tx.
The TLSC provided an Honor
Guard and the Chapter Chaplain.
Frank is survived by wife, Betty
of 7 years, daughters Annette
Elliott, Charlotte
Pendergraft,
Tommie Grochoske
and son
Louis Grochoske, brother Robert
(Bob) Grochoske
and many
grandchildren, nieces, nephews
and stepchildren.
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Former member of the TLSC and member of
the Chosen Few Survivors, Joe Edward
Toal, USMC, passed away on October 28,2014.
Joe was born Dec. 26, 1931. He served in Korea.
He is survived by h;is wife of 63 years, Donna
and by children, Edwin and Mark Toal and
Belinda Weisinger; by grandson Tommy Joe
Weisinger and two sisters. A visitation was held
Friday, October 31st at Carter
Funeral Chapel with services on
Saturday, Nov. 1,2014 at Uvalde
Baptist Church. Interment was at
Sterling White Cemetery
in
Highlands, Texas.
What is SPJST?
'Slavonic Benevolent Order of the State of Texas (SPJST)'. The originally chartered name of the organization,
'Slovanska Podporujici Jednota State Texas.' Founded July 1, 1897 in LaGrange, Texas, by early Czech pioneers of Texas in a time of real need for a fraternal benevolent society to provide mutual aid to its members and
their families.
KOREAN COULTURE NIGHT
On Monday evening, November 3, 2014, Korean Ambassador Suk-Bum Park, hosted a night of Korean music and dance. The music and dance was traditional Korean heritage with meaning in every move and note of
the instruments.
The Korean Community had a very good
turnout for this event and the Lone Star Chapter was represented by Dick and Carol Halferty, Hank Daumann, Johnney Lee and Lee
& Charlotte Henderson.
It was an enjoyable evening and we really
appreciate the invitation to join the Ambassador and his wife for a nice evening.
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WREATH'S
ACROSS
AMERICA-HOUSTON
Alvarado, John
Arnott, Barbara (In memory of Richard Arnott)
Arnwine, L. C.
Bartee, Rosey (In memory
of Tom & Sandra Campion)
Bighouse, Bob (In memory
of Janie Bighouse)
Blair, Buddy
Carnero, Manny
Conte, Tom
Duncan,Jim
Ehrlund, Chuck
Halferty, Dick
Jackson, John
Levine, Janice (In memory
of Jack Levine)
Maillet, W. A.
McLendon, Charles
Mejia, Robert (In mem-
,~ The Wreath's Across America campaign
is now underway. Help by sending in
your $15.00 now, before the November
15th deadline.
ory of 5 brothers)
Middlebrooks, Beverley
(In memory of Marvin
Treadwell
Mitchell, Bob
Morris, Roger (In memory
of Roy Morris)
Napp, Don & Nelda
Potts, Roland
Priger,Ray
Ramsey,Rod
Sanford, R. B.
Santana, Santiago
Schrader, Ben
Shannon, Debra K.
Sloane, Jane (In memory
of Story Sloane)
Spencer, Milly (In memory
of Mickey Spencer)
Stevens, Robert
Stone, Stoney (In memory
of Jerry Weber & Cliff
Montgomery)
Susca, Vito
Velasco, David (In memory of Frank Velasco)
Watkins, J. O. (In memory of Joy Kolbe)
Weisar, Rudy
Total through 10/31/2014
$2,675.00
DIRECTORS
OFFICERS
President
1st Vice Pres.
2nd Vice Pres.
Secretary
Treasurer
Hank Daumann
Carlos Ballard
Rod Ramsey
Roger Morris
Bob Bighouse
FORMER PRESIDENTS
1991-92 - Nat Young
1992-93 - W. B. Kirchheim
1993-94 - Don Foisie
1994-95 - James Duncan
1995 -97 - Bill Hare
1997-98 - John Jackson
1998-99 - "Stoney" Stone
1999-00 - Sal Gambino
2000-01 - Howard Nathan
2001-02 - Bob Mitchell
2002-03 - Carlos Ballard
2003-04 - Don Napp
2004-05 - Charlie Ehrlund
2005-07 - Buddy Blair
2007-08 - Charlie Ehrlund
2008-09 - Carlos Ballard
2009-11 - Bob Bighouse
281-785-6992
281-499-5334
281-497-4054
713-729-5929
713-464-3676
Term Expires
03116
03/16
03/16
03/15
03/15
Jim Duncan
Chuck Ehrland
Ben Schrader
713-464-0633
281-465-5172
281-4830-7638
Dick Halferty *
832-660-8286
* Chairman of the Board
COMMITTEES
CHAPLAIN
COLOR GUARD
EDUCATION
HISTORIAN
MIA/POW
PARLIAMENTARIAN
PUBLIC RELATIONS
QUARTERMASTER
SGT. AT ARMS
KOREAN COMMUNITY LIAISONVA CEMETERY
VA HOSPITAL
VETERANS COALITION
WARRIOR EDITOR
KWV MUSEUM LIAISON
MEMBERSHIP DUES
WEBSITE LIAISON
NEWSLETTER LIAISON
Max Johnson
Don Napp, Asst. - Wayne Telling
Carlos Ballard
David Velasco
Manny Camero
Don Napp
Johnney Lee
"Stoney" Stone / John Jackson
Jim Duncan
Jim Duncan, Stoney Stone
Lee Henderson
([email protected])
Bob Mitchell
Bob Mitchell
Jim Duncan
Rod Ramsey