Visit us online at www.acrepgh.org May 2015 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Volume 19 Issue 5 The Massive Benefits of Your REIA Group By Tom Zeeb A “Real Estate Investor Association” or REIA is a tremendous source of knowledge, networking and inspiration. You need to make these meetings part of your monthly schedule. Every club operates a bit differently, but the basics are all the same. They are a great place to meet other people in the business. People who can educate you, sell you deals, buy deals from you and recommend team members and services. The other people there are the number one reason you should go to the meetings. Being around others in the business and learning about how and why they are successful will help you succeed in your business faster. Inside This Issue Page Board Member’s Message 2 Details Worth Mentioning 3 A Matter of Trust 2015 6 Member Application 9 Calendar of Events 9 Vendor Index 14 Monthly Meeting Agenda 17 While at a meeting, don’t be shy. Shake hands with the people around you and give everyone you meet your business card (you do have cards on you at all times, don’t do?) Be sure to get their card as well. If they do not have one, have them write their name, phone number and email address down. You will want all this information to build your database. These are the people who will buy your wholesale deals or the people that you can call when you are putting a deal together. If you are the shy type, try to make a game out of it. Set a goal and tell yourself you want to leave the meeting with no less than three people’s cards. Then force yourself to say hello to the person sitting next to you. It will get easier every time. The conversations will be basic and remind you of your freshman year in college, when everyone asks the same old questions like ‘where are you from?’ and ‘what are you studying?’, but now it will be ‘what kind of investing do you do?’ and ‘how long have you been doing it?’ Want to learn how to estimate repair costs? Ask one of the renovators at the meeting if you can go see one of their projects and have them explain how they determined their costs. Offer to take them to lunch in return and tell them you’ll be happy to wholesale deals to them. Be respectful of their time though, they are busy and aren’t getting anything in return from you at the moment (other than lunch). Be sure to know the basics, you don’t want to waste their time on things that you should have already learned from books, you’ll get more out of it too! Want to find a good attorney or accountant, ask the regulars at the meeting who they use. What better place to get good team member recommendations that from people actually in the business? Some groups have a ‘deal makers’ section, where they let people stand up and announce deals. Others have a ‘success stories’ section where anyone who has done a deal in the past month can stand up and give the details and then be applauded. Pay attention to who stands up during these sections month after month. They are the players in your local market and people you should make an effort to know. ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 2 state the amount, but not the terms of repayment. The terms are described in the note, which is a private document between the borrower and lender. The note is not usually recorded, so your terms remain private. When a seller holds a mortgage he deeds the property to the new owner and records his mortgage as lien against the property. If any thing were to happen to someone on the property the seller would not be liable because he is only a lien holder. He has no ownership in the property. This is probably the most compelling reason why people would hold a mortgage. The lender should receive the original note, a copy of the recorded mortgage, a copy of the title insurance policy, and a copy of the fire insurance naming the lender as Board Member’s Message o the Members: This month I would like to address a question I receive quite often. How can I sell with owner financing and what are the risks? Sooner or later in the real estate business you will be asked to hold a mortgage or provide seller financing. How you approach and handle this situation may drastically shorten your real estate career. Just ask someone who has had the joy for judicially foreclosing on a mortgage, the average time is about eight months to one year. Knowing this, why would anyone want to hold a mortgage? Before I answer lets go over some of the basics about notes and mortgages. What is a mortgage? A mortgage is a debt instrument by which the borrower gives the lender a lien on property as security for the repayment of a loan. A note is a written promise to pay a specified amount to an entity on or before a specified date. In simpler terms a note is your promise to pay. A mortgage describes what I can take if you don’t pay. A mortgage will appear as lien against the property in the county records. Mortgages typically (Continued on page 3) The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. does not exist to render or give legal, tax, economic or investment advice and disclaims all liability for action or inaction taken or not taken as a result of communication from or to its officers, directors and members. If legal advice or other expert assistance is required, the services of a competent professional should be sought. President Josh Adamek 412-537-8604 [email protected] Vice President Sharon Harkins 412-262-5943 [email protected] E,Q Treasurer Jeff Kasmer 724-864-5400 [email protected] C,K,L,S Secretary Brad Dornish 412-765-2726 [email protected] A,O,U,W,X Chuck Pupich 412-302-2131 [email protected] B,C,N,O,V,X Nancy Worst 412-331-8595 [email protected] T Steve Powanda 412-276-6974 [email protected] C,E,F,H,I,J,O,P Board of Directors A Tax Sales B Owner Financing C Rentals D Land Contracts E Retail (Rehab) F Wholesale L Income Tax Prep H Lease Option/Rent-to-Own N Time Management I Foreclosure/Sheriff Sales O Business Ownership J Finding/Selling Properties P Financing K Accounting Q Note Buying R Financial Planning B,C,D,E,F,H,J,O,P,Q S Computer/Software T Realtor U Legal V Property Management W Asset Protection X Business Plan The Real Estate Investor Board Member’s Message (Continued from page 2) the loss payee. If you don’t receive these items you may not be fully protected from future problems. What happens if my buyer doesn’t pay? You get to keep the down payment, all the monthly payments and get the property back. The bad part is mortgages in the state of Pennsylvania must be foreclosed on to reclaim the property. This is a judicial process and is very slow. So, when I hold a mortgage I ask myself the following questions before I do the deal. In the event of default would I want to own the property again for what I have in it, plus the cost of foreclosure, and assuming that it will be beat up when I get it back? If the answer is yes, then I do the deal. There are certain things I do to make my mortgage as strong as possible. First, it should be done by a real estate attorney. You wouldn’t go to a foot doctor for brain surgery. Why would you go to a divorce attorney for real estate work? With this in mind you need to know what should be in your mortgage. Don’t assume it will get in there if you don’t ask to have it put in, and by all means read the final document. Here are a few of the things I have put in my mortgages. 1) Due on sale clause – allows you to call the loan due if the property is transferred 2) Collection clause – allows a third party to collect payments for you ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. May Details Worth Mentioning Renewal Memberships. Please be sure to show your name badge to someone at the desk. If you do not have one, we will issue a name badge after checking your paid status. Members paid to May 31, 2015 or later are asked to renew their membership at this time, $129.00 for an individual and $39.00 for an associate IF YOU RENEW PRIOR TO YOUR PAIDTO DATE. Renew after your due -date at $139. Please be prepared to renew at the monthly meeting, online or by mail. If you have email, you should be receiving reminders to renew. GUESTS may attend their first meeting free. Subsequent meetings attended by GUESTS, as well as any previous member who has not paid their dues, must pay a $25 fee. Last Minute Changes/Updates. Call our toll-free number at 1-888-4 ACRE40 the day of a meeting or seminar to see if we have any last minute change or with questions regarding the newsletter, membership or registrations. Call to verify a workshop is still being held. We may have to cancel if we do not have enough preregistrations. Remember, ALL workshops and seminars can be registered online at the Calendar of Events. PROA, our state association, can give you access to Credit Checks for possible tenants. Call or email Jeff Kasmer for your PROA ID. You can also list your properties for rent on a state wide basis as well as on our website on the Classifieds Tab. Their website is www.PROAssoc.org. With your PROA ID, you can also sign up for credit checks of potential tenants. Vendors are asked to email Jeff a copy of their ad in a picture format. (Continued on page 6) Page 3 Welcome New Members April Matthew Homerosky Jeff Hartzell Mattt Kisasonak Jim Fraps Tamera Smith Tom Brooks ACRE is a member of National REIA National Real Estate Investors Association ACRE is a proud member of Pennsylvania Residential Owners Association (PROA) www.PROAssoc.org ACRE of Pittsburgh John Smith ]]]]]]]]]]]]] Please remember to bring your name badge to the monthly meeting and workshops/seminars. If you lose it, a new one will be made for $10.00. Page 4 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. The Real Estate Investor The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 5 Page 6 The Massive Benefits of Your REIA Group (Continued from page 1) The clubs are not usually free and there is a charge per meeting or on an annual basis. I highly recommend becoming a member. The $200 you spend will be well worth it. Where else can you get all these benefits in one place? It is a totally deductible expense as well. Some of the associations have websites packed with great information. Some have on-line bulletin boards as well. This is another great source for info or for advertising deals. Some of the websites are for members only. Most meetings will also have a speaker, usually a national speaker. These are gurus who come to town to teach you about their particular real estate investing specialty and to offer you their home study course. The speakers vary widely but we find that we always get a few great ideas from each one and it is well worth listening to them. If you resent being sold to, get over it. They are there to make money and they have given you free advice and inspiration in return for being able to pitch you. There is nothing wrong with that. Especially if you walk away with a great idea. We will often buy their courses if we think it will give us great ideas that we can apply in our own business. Most of the courses that we’ve bought we’ve made the money back many times over from the great ideas that the courses taught us. Buying courses is fine as long as you plan to read them and put the ideas into action. Don’t fall into ‘analysis paralysis’. You won’t make your money back by letting it sit on the shelf unread and unused. ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Tom Zeeb has been featured by CNBC, The Washington Post, Kiplinger's Magazine, The Washington Examiner, Financial Lifeline Radio and National Real Estate Investors Association's Magazine among others. He is the President of Traction REIA, the Recipient of the National REIA "Honors of Merit" and the "Award of Excellence" for Best Real Estate Investor Association! Traction REIA serves Washington DC, Northern Virginia, and Maryland. Check out www.TractionREIA.com and www.TractionRealEstateMentors. com for more information. Board Message (Continued from page 3) 3) Late penalty – a fee for late payment 4) Confession of Judgment – allows you to enter a judgment on their behalf 5) Personal Guaranty The buyer must sign personally 6) Assignments of rents – allows you to collect rents while foreclosing 7) Finally be sure to get enough down payment, it is your biggest insurance policy against a problem. Please be advised you should always consult legal and accounting professionals when doing real estate transactions. These are some of the things that The Real Estate Investor work for me. They are not intended to be legal or professional advice. Your situation may be different, but at least you can have some idea of what you are trying to accomplish. tSteve Powanda The Real Estate Investor The Basic Rules & Concepts of Negotiation © Tom Zeeb / TractionRealEstateMentors.com There are some basic rules and concepts to remember when you are negotiating. I will describe these rules and concepts so that you can get a clear idea of what negotiating is and what things you need to be aware of. Remember that you are negotiating all the time. This is true for many aspects of your life. Therefore, even if you are not using a specific technique, keep these basic rules and concepts in mind. They are the starting point and framework for any negotiation. ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. them. There are other situational pressures on them. Don’t forget that. Don’t always feel that there is just pressure on you. Stop and breath, take a step back, and look at the situation calmly. A lot of this is about going around the other side of the table and thinking like them, feeling like them and recognizing what is going on there. Just don’t forget that they have pressure on them to close the deal as well. 2. Wanting to learn negotiating skills. You have to want to learn this stuff. Five Things that Make a Good Negotiator The right state of mind is important. As is learning the skills necessary to success and improve. Like anything else, there are things that you can do to improve your mindset and skill set. Consider these five things that make a good negotiator: 1. Understanding that the other side has pressure on them to do the deal as well. Both sides are under pressure to do the deal. So don’t feel too intimidated. Don’t think it is just you that needs to perform. If you start approaching someone like you desperately need to buy, don’t forget that they need to sell. Some need to sell more than others. And some really need to sell fast. Understand that there is pressure on them as well. There is time pressure on them. There is money pressure on That sounds basic and obvious, but many people think to themselves, “I am a good businessman. I am a good negotiator.” Yes, maybe. But there is a lot you can learn and it is going to take practice. Commit to wanting to learn about negotiation. 3. The desire to practice. You need to be willing to practice these skills. I have a friend whom I told to study these techniques. I recommended a course to him and he said to me, “I am a good negotiator already. I know all that. I don’t need help.” I said, “Just humor me on this one. You are starting a new job and I think these techniques will really do you good.” I had once thought the same thing myself, that I couldn’t get any better, etc. That’s nonsense! Everyone can get better if they study and practice the right things. Page 7 He did actually study the techniques. I got an email from him a couple of weeks later and he said, “That stuff was awesome. I am doing so well now.” He negotiated 25% discounts across the board from all the vendors he was dealing with. He said his boss is thrilled beyond belief and can’t believe what a great choice they made hiring him. He applied these techniques and totally changed the dynamics of the way that his company is doing business with other companies. He said some of the stuff sounded basic but you just don’t always think about it, especially in a big picture perspective that ties it all together. Commit to practicing the skills it takes to be a successful negotiator. 4. Understanding negotiating skills. Start to think about negotiating as an art and as a science. It is something coherent that you can learn and it just takes some practice. Be wanting to learn negotiation skills and become a better negotiator. Practice the negotiating skills that you learn. You will only get better through practice. 5. Wanting to create "win/win" negotiating situations. I know you hear the term “win-win” a lot and it might sound a little cheesy, however it really does make all the difference in the world. Not viewing someone as the winner and someone as the loser is one of the (Continued on page 8) ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 8 Negotiations (Continued from page 7) major things that separate negotiation from high-pressure sales techniques. High pressure sales techniques sometimes make you feel like a loser. Especially if you are the one who forked over a lot of money for something you maybe didn’t need or really want. In a win-win situation, you would say “I think I got a good deal. I got some value out of that”. That will make a difference in the way you are perceived by the other party and by the business community in general. It will make people want to refer you to others. -- ### -Tom Zeeb has been featured by CNBC, The Washington Post, Kiplinger's Magazine, The Washington Examiner, Financial Lifeline Radio and National Real Estate Investors Association's Magazine among others. He is the President of Traction REIA, the Recipient of the National REIA "2010 Honors of Merit" and the "2009 Award of Excellence" for Best Real Estate Investor Association! Traction REIA serves the Greater Washington DC Metro Area. Check out www.TractionREIA.com and www.TractionRealEstateMentors.co m for more information. 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Acre of Beaver County Monthly Meeting Fourth Tuesday, May 26. 2015 Harmony Ridge Golf Club, 7:00 pm May Monthly Meeting May 5, 2015. 7:00 pm Green Tree DoubleTree Hotel Joe Calloway, RE 360 Office June 6. 2015 June Monthly Meeting June 2, 2015, 7:00 pm Green Tree DoubleTree Hotel July Monthly Meeting July 7, 2015, 7:00 pm Green Tree Double Tree Hotel Page 10 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. The Real Estate Investor The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 11 Page 12 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. The Real Estate Investor The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 13 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 14 Vendor Index AMBIT Energy Arbor’s Management Building Inspection Professionals Budget Kitchen & Bath CAMA Plan CCC Holdings Don’s Appliance Dornish Law Offices, PC Eble Excavating Exchange Underwriters Fedele Insurance Home Depot GEICO Investor’s Deal LLC Jimmy the Junkman JMAG Keller Williams M & M RE Holdings LLC Mace Property Management Martin D. Schwartz Tax & Acctg 14 4 16 16 12 4 5 15 5 14 16 13 10 12 9 9 5 16 18 9 New Choice Home Décor New Direction IRA New Perspective Staging One Source IPS Pennwestern Capital RE 360 ReCasa Financial Restano’s Backflow Scolieri Law Group, PC Sherwin Williams Synergy Capital, Inc Why USA Home For U Realty Wilke & Associates, LLP Windows R Us 4 11 4 15 4 11 4 4 5 14 16 4 18 11 The Real Estate Investor The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. Page 15 Page 16 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. The Real Estate Investor The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. MAY MONTHLY MEETING NOTICE 7:00 - 10:00 P.M. Page 17 Beginner Q&A 6:30 PM DOUBLETREE HOTEL, GREEN TREE First Tuesday, May 5th, 2015 A. BRAINSTORMING SOLUTIONS B. Training Tidbits & Legal Updates C. VENDOR SPEAKER The Home Depot D. ANNOUNCEMENTS E. Main Speaker Tom Zeeb - Rapid Cash Generation, How to Make Money without Money Page 18 ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. The Real Estate Investor The Real Estate Investor ACRE of Pittsburgh, Inc. 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