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State of the Market – Where You Need to Invest (and Avoid)
Today’s market is up – or is it down temporarily? Infill building has brought new laws from Nashville’s Metro Council, and nearby
cities are taking note. Should you get into that? Is fixing and flipping still a good money-making strategy? What do today’s buyers
want? WHO are today’s buyers? Do I even know what they look like? And how they are different than buyers of 18 months ago? Is
Buy and Hold Renting in favor now - or on the way out?
Get answers at this next REIN General Meeting on Monday, November, 10, 2014 from 7 to 9 pm. We’ll
have a panel of seasoned professionals to discuss how their clients are ‘playing the market’ – and answer
audience questions on how you can, too.
Yogi Dougher, Lender for First Advantage Bank, Investor
Yogi helps real estate investors with customized financing options for their particular situation,
considering their overall picture for approval purposes, without the use of product boxes. Yogi serves
investors from start to finish: initial inquiry, applying, underwriting, processing, and closing the loan.
Yogi oversaw nearly 100 projects last year, totaling $40 million.
Bob Potter, Investor, Developer, and Builder
An investor in Nashville for the past 15 years, Bob has extensive experience in rentals, rehabs and
new construction. Bob’s recent focus is building new construction, urban infill homes in emerging
neighborhoods. Bob is a licensed General Contractor, Founder of Kudzu Homes, and a partner in the
real estate brokerage RENEW Real Estate Services.
Jeff Ley, Real Estate Agent, Wholesaler, and Investor
Jeff is a full-time Realtor and Broker with 7 years in the business. As an agent, Jeff helps buyers and
investors to locate distressed properties, including HUD, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, VA, REO bank
foreclosures, and short sales. Jeff helps sellers minimize their days on market and maximize their sale
price. Jeff is a fellow investor with experience in rentals, renovation, and wholesale transactions.
Ronda Miller, Owner of Ronda P Miller Interiors
For 15 years, Ronda has delivered intelligent design and interior finish selections for specific investor
markets (and ROI). Ronda helps investors with Color Consulting, Home Rejuvenation for sale or resale, and Current Design Trends
with Modern Function. Ronda
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helps investors use design to get the
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most money out of their projects by
Main Presentation at 7:00 pm
staying current on the latest trends.
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November 10, 2014
Dinner
Rutherford County Subgroup
REIN Lunch Network – Dalt’s
REIN General Meeting @ FiftyForward Center
Wholesaling Subgroup
Landlording Subgroup
REIN Lunch Network – Dalt’s
Fundamentals of Real Estate Insurance / Kevin Hale
Williamson County Lunch – TBA
5:00 pm – 6:30 pm
Register by Thursday, 11/6/14
www.REINtn.org/dinner $8
bREakout $essions
5:30 pm – 7:00 pm Networking
Bring business cards and your badges! Look for stars on their badges
and match your star with theirs. Learn to connect with others on a
personal level one on one or in a quick format. Make the most of
your time to meet people; grow your investing by setting up lunches
or going out for late supper or coffee after the meeting. Ask what
you can do for them to help them be successful.
Rutherford County Subgroup
REIN Lunch Network – Dalt’s
Deals, Deals, Deals
REIN General Meeting @ Fifty Forward Center
Wholesaling Subgroup - cancelled
Landlording Subgroup
Deals, Deals, Deals
REIN Lunch Network – Dalt’s
Williamson County Lunch – cancelled
5:30 pm – 6:15 pm Apps for the iPad, iPhone and Smartphones /
Wayne Woodson
Real Estate investors have help for investing from their smartphones
and mobile devices. Learn about those apps—many that are FREE.
Wayne is a real estate investor and agent. He will share info on the
apps he uses and lead discussion of apps used by others in the group.
DEALS, DEALS, DEALS
The vision.
An opportunity to learn where investors find deals, a place for people
to sell deals, and to learn about the mechanics of various sorts of deals
(lease options, using transactional funding, attracting buyers, ins and
outs of wholesaling, more). We bring in people, do interviews in front
of the group, talk about deals we are seeing in the market. Often we
have ‘state of the market’ type of discussions - talk about trends, more.
Each meeting we have an outline.
My intro - who I am, purpose of the group, etc. Round Robin
introduction—name, what I do, and a need (what need to grow my
real estate biz/education or who I need to meet next sort of thing)
Main Topic: Sometimes we will bring in speakers on topics like closings,
contractors, insurance, appraisers. Other times we talk about what the
group wants to talk about - answer their questions. Other times we go
look at houses (which are the most beneficial to people).
At the end we have 30 minutes of open networking followed by dinner
and late networking.
5:30 pm – 6:15 pm Meet Councilwoman Megan Barry—
Discussion on Increasing Term Limits and Reducing Council
Members / John Brittle
Should Metro Council continue limits to 2 terms or increase to
3 terms. Do you believe a smaller number of councilpersons is
better? Discussion and debate. How would it affect your working
on rezoning and other real estate issues? How do you feel about it
personally?
5:30 pm – 6:15 pm Genius Bar – Case Study Double Closings
and Transactional Funding / Trey Cain and Mary Wester
Come with your questions about double closings and talk one on
one with real estate attorney, Trey Cain. Also Trey will share with
the group a real same day “double’ closing from beginning to end
and how they get funded.
5:30—5:10 and 6:15 pm – 6:40 pm How to Make Money in
Today’s Real Estate Market — Guests & New Members
This first of a 3-part series is for the investor who wants to profit
with single family houses. Learn how and where to find deals, what
to say to sellers, and a simple way to keep track of them for proper
follow up. Forms used in this topic will be available for attendees.
MAIN PRESENTATION
7:00 pm – 8:45 pm Panel Discussion
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WHERE DO YOU FIND GREAT DEALS ON APARTMENTS? by Anthony Chara
I get this question a lot, especially, during or just after a presentation
showing an apartment complex illustrating a ‘cash on cash’ return in
excess of 20%.
through extensive training on commercial property, plus, they must
have a proven track record of closed deals or consultations showing
extensive commercial knowledge and they must pass a comprehensive
examination. I consider a CCIM equivalent to a PHD. By the way, you
can also find CCIM’s at www.CCIM.com too. It’s estimated that only
6% of the roughly 125,000 commercial brokers out there have a CCIM
designation.
If you went to a Commercial Broker and told them you were looking
for properties with a 20% COCR, they’d do one of two things; 1-They’d
tell you they would buy the property themselves if they ever found one
with a 20% COCR or 2-They’d hang up on you because they’d think
your expectations are unrealistic.
Once I find 5-6 brokers in a given market, with or without the CCIM
designation, I call them to introduce myself. I ask them about the
market conditions, recent sales in the area and their own experience
as a commercial broker. It’s amazing how much information you can
get when you ask the right questions. You also get a pretty good feel for
the person about whether or not you see yourself having a long-term
relationship with them.
You probably won’t find an Apartment complex advertised with a 20%
COCR. Just like the broker said, if it fell into their lap, they’d buy it.
However, you can increase your chances of finding some great deals by
doing a few things differently.
First off, there’s no big secret in ‘finding’ Apartment complexes for
sale. Start by using the same vehicles most investors use. For instance,
you can search through Loopnet.com or go to any of the major or
regional Commercial Brokerage web sites such as Marcus & Millichap
(MarcusMillichap.com), CB Richard Ellis (CBRE.com) or Sperry Van
Ness (SVN.com) just to name a few. There are many many more out
there.
Once I have a good feel for 3-4 of the agents I’ve spoken with, I give
them the criteria I’m searching for in a complex. My criteria will include
number of units, unit mix, minimum Cap Rate, price range, the quality
of the complex (A, B or C) and area of the city. I may even mention that
I’m looking for the owner to do some or all of the financing. I follow-up
my phone conversations by emailing or faxing my contact information
and criteria to the brokers. Then, I phone or email the brokers every
1-2 weeks to stay in contact with them. Since the brokers know exactly
what I’m looking for it makes it easier for them to find something that
fits my criteria. The ones that bring me deals I take care of. Obviously,
they get their commission, but it’s the extra little things I do that I
believe makes a difference such as sending them a restaurant gift card
to take their spouse or significant other out for a night on the town
at my expense or maybe tickets to a local sporting event or bottle of
wine. That way, I am always in the front of their mind anytime a good
deal comes across their desk. You’ve probably heard the term ‘Pocket
Listing’. Well, I want to be a ‘Pocket Client’. When the broker gets a
new listing, I want to be one of the few clients they call first, sometimes
before they even release the details to other brokers in their own office.
And that’s the key to finding great deals.
You can also peruse local newspapers in the market you’re interested
in. Remember that not all papers are created equal. Some newspapers
will advertise commercial properties in the business section, not
the classifieds. Another paper no one thinks about is the Wall Street
Journal. They have both national and local properties advertised for
sale.
Another way to find Apartments for sale is to ask Property Managers
or Commercial Financiers that work in the area you’re looking to
purchase in. Often times, they know owners who are looking for
another property and have to sell their first one to move on or they
know someone who’s just ready to retire.
These are just a few of the sources I use. More are given in my workshops
and boot camps. The key to getting great Apartment deals may start
with the information above, but it ends with the information below.
If you think about it, everyone out there has access to the same sources
for deals, but it’s the people who have nurtured and cultivated their
relationship with the broker that reaps the bumper crop! They will
even tend to go to bat for you with the seller if you’re looking to do
something other than just put down a traditional 20%-25%. They will
be in your corner helping you explain to the seller why it would be
better financially for them to carry-back some or the entire purchase
price then to just sell the property outright and make you bring in new
financing.
Like I stated already, there’s no big secret in finding Apartment
complexes for sale. The key is to find a great deal and here’s how I do it.
The first thing I decide upon is a market in which I want to purchase.
I may determine the market based on economic factors such as job
growth or an expanding economy in that area. I may decide upon the
market just because it’s a place I’d like to visit on a regular basis. The
next step is to interview at least 3-4 good commercial brokers in that
market and create a long-lasting, mutually beneficial relationship with
at least one or two of them.
Even in the commercial world, it’s about relationships. Once you have
those relationships established you have a much greater chance at
turning an average deal into a great deal. A 10% COC return into a
20% COC return. That relationship just helped you double your cash
flow. How much is that worth to you?
Here’s what I do and how I use my research. Preferably, I want to find
a commercial broker that has a CCIM designation. CCIM stands for
Certified Commercial Investment Member. Most CCIM’s will list this
designation in their internet and newspaper ads. CCIM’s have gone
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