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Europe 2011
May 23-26, Madrid
I-deas Migration to NX CAE
Marouf Dwaikat
EMEA Center of Excellence
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Agenda
 Introduction
 CAE Data Manual Migration Paths
 CMM-Native for CAE
 Browser
 Configuration Options
 Supported Entities
 Demo
 I-deas to NX CAE Transition Challenges and Issues
 Current Situation
 Best practices
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Introduction
Objectives
 Provide the best and most effective transition for I-deas CAE customers
 Facilitate phased implementations via the “paired release” approach
between NX and I-deas
 Move all I-deas CAE customers successfully to NX
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CAE Data Manual Migration Paths
Methods
 I-deas universal file
 Limited support for data sets
 No support for loads and boundary conditions
 Results supported
 Nastran/ANSYS/Abaqus Bulk Data file
 FE Geometry and loads and boundary conditions
 Solution set-up
Neither method can migrate associated geometry
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CMM
CMM = Content Migration Manager
 Process used to migrate I-deas NX CAD data to NX
 Run from Teamcenter Engineering
 Maintains as much design intent as possible
 Maintains data managed control over migrated parts
Does not process I-deas CAE data checked into TDM
 CAE data not available for migration in Teamcenter
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CMM-Native for CAE
Content Migration Manager – Native
 Launched from NX
 UGII_MIG_USE_FEM_NATIVE=1
 Migrates CAE data (and parent
geometry if desired) from I-deas model
file to native NX files (.prt/.fem/.sim/etc.)
 Associative mesh and recipe
 Size, material, physical
 Note: not associative if section
based
 Associative Boundary Conditions
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I-deas CAE CMM-Native Migration
Migration has 4 components:
 CAD geometry
 NX Nastran bulk data
 XML to describe associativities
 Universal file containing analysis results
Export from I-deas breaks data into these components, then reassembles them
on import to NX
Resulting data is saved outside of TCE (native)
Partitioning is resolved in the .fem part using polygon geometry
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I-deas CAE CMM-Native Migration
Ideas
Suptab gateway
CMM Communication
Model Solution
XPK – B-Rep
NX
NX Nastran
Environment
(features optional)
FE Data (Nastran deck)
Nodes, elements
materials, physical properties
beam cross sections
Mapping
Geometry association table
Node to geo map
Elem to geo map
Geometry based LBC
Mesh recipe (element size, PID,
MID)
Results stored in model file
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(model solution or any imported
results)
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Content Migration Manager – Native
Specify model file to migrate from
Opens browser window (similar to
Manage Bins) to select FE model(s)
On: The associated CAD parts will
migrate along with the FE models. The
node and element associations and
mesh recipes will be migrated as well
Off: Only the FE data will migrate
Selected FE model(s), parts and
their status appear
Summary region, updated as
migration progresses
Configuration Options, Start Migration
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CMM-Native – I-deas Browser
Select FE model(s) to migrate
Very similar to the I-deas Manage Bins form
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CMM-Native – Configuration Options
Set units for resulting NX files
Toggle off to keep NX parts open after migration
Set location for resulting NX files
Set location for Migration Report files
Set location for temporary files
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CMM-Native – Configuration Options
Toggle off to suppress history migration (geometry only)
Always import B-Rep or only On feature migration failure
Set destination color and layer for reference geometry
Set destination color and layer for wireframe geometry
Note: If parts are being migrated that won’t need to be
modified, you can improve the reliability and
performance of the migration process and create
smaller files by migrating the boundary representation,
but not the feature history (recommended).
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CMM-Native – Configuration Options
Set to directory containing ideas_paramxx.dat
in the CMM installation, otherwise…
 Typically ...\ideasgateway\cmm
(C:\UGS\CMM\IDEASGateway\cmm)
 NOTE: This is NOT the location of the param
file for any existing I-deas TDM installation
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Supported Entities
Is forward creation
supported in NX7.5?
Will migration be
supported by CMM?
Yes
Yes
Different
No
AFEM associations to assembly
Yes
No
Durability (Fatigue)
Yes
No
Optimization
Yes
Yes
Laminates
Yes
Yes
Response Analysis
Yes
No
Partial
No
Variational Analysis
No
No
Cylindrical and spherical coordinate system references
Yes
Yes
Materials
Yes
Yes
Physical Properties
Yes
Yes
Groups
Yes
Yes
Dynamic groups
No
No
FE Studies
Yes
No
Results
Yes
Yes
Solution setup
Yes
Yes
I-deas FE Entity
General FEM entities/concepts
Partitioned geometry
Sections
Moldflow/Plastics
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Supported Entities
Is forward creation
supported in NX7.5?
Will migration be
supported by CMM?
Nodes
Yes
Yes
Elements
Yes
Yes
FE-based boundary conditions
Yes
Yes
Tracelines
No
No
Time, temperature, and frequency dependency for boundary
conditions
Yes
Yes
FE-based contact
Yes
Yes
Beam sections
Yes
Yes
I-deas FE Entity
FE-based CAE entities
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Supported Entities
Is forward creation
supported in NX7.5?
Will migration be
supported by CMM?
Node/Element geometry association
Yes
Yes
Free mesh definition
Yes
Yes
Mapped mesh definition
Yes
No
Geometry based boundary conditions
Yes
No
Anchor node
Yes
No
Different
Yes
Surface thickness not using data surface
Yes
Yes
Surface thickness using data surface
No
Yes
Different
No
Geometry based 0-d and 1-d “other” elements
Yes
No
Geometry based1-d projected “other” elements
Partial
No
Geometry based contact
Yes
No
FEM connectors (weld elements)
No
Yes
I-deas FE Entity
Geometry based CAE entities
Data suface and data edge
Edge/Area dependency
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I-deas CAE Library or .unv file data
The CMM-Native process reads I-deas CAE data from a model file only
 If users have FE data checked into a library, they need to check it out into a
model file and save before running CMM-Native
 If users have data stored in archive or universal files, these will need to be
read into a model file and saved before running CMM-Native
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ANSYS/Abaqus Users
The CMM-Native process uses an NX Nastran bulk data
file
 If ANSYS or Abaqus solutions are set up in I-deas, the
solver specific data will not be migrated
 Physical properties
 Data defined in export forms
 Etc.
The user has the option of exporting an ANSYS or
Abaqus deck from I-deas and importing it into NX.
 This process does not use the CMM tools
 Will not transfer geometry
Up to the user to weigh the tradeoff between maintaining
geometry/associativity vs. migrating analysis specific
settings.
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Notes
CMM does NOT require an existing I-deas installation
 CMM-Native install contains a “headless” version of I-deas
 CMM-Native works off a model file – no TDM required
 Only NX and CMM-Native need to be installed
CMM can open any I-deas Master Series model file
 Does not have to be NXI6
 Recommendation is that part data be updated and saved in I-deas Master
Series 8 or later
The latest versions should be used to ensure the most robust translation
 CMM-Native v7.5.3 (available since April 29)
 NX 7.5.3
The CMM installer will install everything, including start menu items for
Teamcenter CAD CMM.
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CMM-Native for CAE – Demo
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CMM-Native for CAE – How to get it
CMM-Native for CAE is on CMM media that can be downloaded from GTAC
(http://ftp.ugs.com/)
 You MUST walk the customer through the process prior to delivery/download
so that they understand the process/capabilities/limitations.
Support page:
 http://cipgweb/dss/PSQ_web_site/psq_cmm/psq_cmm_index.html
 Documentation
 Known Issues
 FAQ’s
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Challenges and Issues
Software functionality
 Issues with I-deas customers who deal with legacy CAE data or who work with
imported meshes (i.e. with no geometry) – manual meshing regression!
 Post-processing capabilities
Resistance to change
 Old customers using I-deas for many years with strong habits
 Hard to make them move on to a new GUI…
 Some customers want to use NX exactly as they use I-deas!
Budget
 Migration from I-deas to NX is free of charge for customers with current
maintenance, but…
 some customers don’t understand why they have to pay for training + services
to migrate.
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Current Situation
3DCONNEXION GMBH
ABB Oy
ABB Turbo Systems AG
AIRBUS OPERATIONS SAS
AIRBUS SAS
Akebono Advanced Eng
Alfa Laval Kolding A/S
Alstom (Schweiz) AG
Alstom Power Uniturbo, JV
ALTRAN
ALTRAN SUD OUEST
ANDRITZ HYDRO AB
Andritz Hydro GmbH
Andritz Hydro LTEE
ANDRITZ HYDRO LTEE
Andritz Hydro Pvt. Ltd.
ANSALDOBREDA SPA
Anthony Best Dynamics Ltd
AREVA TA
ArjoHuntleigh Limited
Armscor Defence Institutes
Aselsan A.S.
ASML UNITED STATES INC
Assytem Eng. & Op. Services
ASTRIUM
Astrium GmbH
Astrium Limited
ASTRIUM SAS
Atlantic Inertial Systems
ATOS ORIGIN S.A.E
AVIO S.P.A.
AXS ANALYSE
B & W Loudspeakers Limited
BAE Land Systems UK
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BAE Systems EI&S
BERCO SPA
BLUE RIDGE NUMERICS LTD
BRANO GROUP a.s.
Bronto Skylift OY
CADOR CONSULTING sp. z o.o.
CAE Engineering und Service GmbH
CASSIDIAN
CAUCHOMETAL PRODUCTOS , S.L.
CEA CESTA
CEA SACLAY
CEMEF
CERA
CESI CENTRO SPER.ITALIANO
CESI SPA - CENTRO
ELETTROTECNICO
CETIM
Dynapac Compaction Equipment AB
EADS Astrium GmbH
CIDEON Engineering GmbH
CILAS
CNES
CNRS IAS
CNRS INSU
Cobham Advanced Composites
FERRARI AUTO SPA
FIAT AUTO - ICT
.
IBERICA DE GESTION INDUSTRIAL
INDALUX ILUMINACION TÉCNICA,
S.L.
INERGY AUTOMOTIVE SYSTEMS
EADS Deutschland GmbH
EADS Lenkflugkörpersysteme GmbH FRANCE
Ingenieurbüro Rippel
ECL
INSTITUT PIERRE-SIMON LAPLACE
Engel Austria GmbH
IPN ORSAY
Epsilon Hightech AB
Iscar also known as Iscar Ltd
EPSILON INGENIERIE
JCB Transmissions Ltd
Epsilon Utvecklingscentrum Väst AB JOE GIBBS RACING, INC.
EUROCOPTER S.A.S
FACC AG
FAURECIA
Faurecia Exteriors GmbH
Finn-Power Oy
FLEXI FRANCE
FRANCAISE DE ROUES
Free Field Technologies S.A.
Crane Process Flow Technologies
Crown Packaging UK plc
DCNS
DCNS - NAVIRES ARMES LORIENT
Dellner Couplers AB
DESY Hamburg
DESY IfH Zeuthen
DRESSER RAND SA
DTR VMS Limited
DUCATI MOTOR HOLDING SPA
DYNAE
Dynamic Design Solutions N.V.
Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH
Fujitsu Technology Solutions Gmbh
FUNDACION CIE I+D+I
GE Jenbacher GmbH & Co. OHG
GROVE US LLC
Hayes Lemmerz Autokola a.s.
HBM UNITED KINGDOM LTD
HELWAN COMPANY FOR
ENGINEERING INDU
HISPANO SUIZA COLOMBES SERIE
HS Marston Aerospace Limited
Husqvarna AB
I.T.P
Johnson Controls Automotive
Joy Mining Machinery Ltd
Koenig & Bauer AG
Kverneland Group Nieuw Vennep
LABEIN -TECNALIA
Landis + Gyr Limited
LINDEN COMANSA, S.A.
MAATS Tech Ltd
MAN DIESEL A/S
MANITOU
manroland AG
MBDA France
METALOGENIA, S.A.
Metso Minerals Oy
MFPM MICHELIN
Norbar Torque Tools Limited
NTN - SNR ROULEMENTS
RADIACION Y MICROONDAS,
RENAULT ESPAÑA, S.A.
RENAULT F1 Team
RENAULT TRUCKS
Research Design and Technology THALES ALENIA SPACE FRANCE
THALES ALENIA SPACE ITALIA SPA
RIETER AUTOMOTIVE S.A.
THALES ELECTRON DEVICES SA
THALES ELECTRON DEVICES SA TGC
Rolls Royce AB
THALES OPTRONIQUE SA
Rolls-Royce Marine AS
Rothe Erde GmbH
THEOREM SOLUTIONS
Saab Dynamics AB
SAGEM Défense Sécurité
SAINT-GOBAIN GLASS
SAIPEM S.A
Sandvik IT Services AB
SAPA OPERACIONES, S.L.
SCANIA CV AB
Schaeffler KG
SEIV AQUITAINE
Selex Galileo Ltd
Siemens AG
SIEMENS AG Österreich
SIEMENS AG PTD
Siemens plc
Siemens VAI Metals
SKF Aerospace UK Limited
SKODA JS a.s.
SNPE MATERIAUX
NVIDIA CORPORATION
Öhlins Racing AB
SOCIETE DES POLYMERES
ONERA
OSTROJ Opava, a.s.
SOGETI HIGH TECH
SOLER Y PALAU S.A.
Soplar SA
STANT MANUFACTURING INC
STORENGY GDF SUEZ
Sulzer Pumps (UK) Limited
Swansea Metropolitan University
PATENTES TALGO, S.L.
PAULSTRA SNC
PRINCIPIA
PSA PEUGEOT CITROEN
Tau Beräkning AB
Techni AS
Telair International GmbH
TELEVES
THALES ALENIA SPACE
SOGETI High Tech
THOMSON INC
TIMKEN COMPANY
Toyota Motor Europe NV/SA
TROMOSA
Twiflex Limited
UD TRUCKS CORPORATION
ULTRAMAGIC, S.A.
VALEO SYSTEMES THERMIQUES SAS
VIBRATEC
VISTEON CORP
VÍTKOVICE HEAVY MACHINERY a.s.
Voith Turbo
VR Engineering
Výzkumný ústav textilních stroju Li
Weston Aerospace
Wincor Nixdorf International GmbH
WINCOR NIXDORF PTE LTD
WSK PZL RZESZOW S.A.
WZL Aachen GmbH
ZF Getriebe GmbH
ZF Sachs AG
ZMZ Zavolzhsky Motor Plant
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Current Situation
 Many customers have migrated already. Others are in the process of
migrating, or expected to migrate soon.
 Customer migrated after being provided CMM and an Initial Audit process.
 Audit/Demonstrations followed by training, pilot, implementation, other
services.
 Some customers moved to NX without migrating CAE data.
 Keep the I-deas server “alive” in case they need to access old data.
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Best Practices
 CMM should be used/recommended to customers with caution.
 Do not voluntarily mention or steer customer to CMM (best to keep it in your
back pocket and use only if customer asks about migration)
 Best process would be to finish existing projects in I-deas and start new
programs in NX (i.e. no migration of CAE data at all) - This is the
recommended path for most users.
 Priority to be given to I-deas customers with “CAD oriented” CAE process
(working closely with geometry)
 Easier to demonstrate benefits of NX over I-deas.
 Explain differences of NX CAE approach over I-deas.
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Best Practices
 Know what the customer is doing, get him to engage as soon as possible, and
push to migrate at the “right time”.
 Continue making customers aware of the “migration to the next generation” of
Siemens CAE product portfolio.
 Encourage customers to get to the latest version that allow dual licensing.
 Try to identify what are the show-stoppers and get that addressed ASAP by
feeding straight back into development and follow up with the customer to show
that NX is progressing.
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Best Practices
 Migrate I-deas customers to NX through customer-funded services projects
 Get customers to migrate to NX and get paid for helping them do so
 Formal migration plan (I2N), with seminars for customers
 Get customers to migrate to NX, and upsell in the process
 NX intro seminar for I-deas users (1 day update sessions)
 Make I-deas customers aware of NX and enable the I-deas users to start
using NX
 Sales program started for I-deas migrations
 Prevent losing them to the competition
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