NATIONAL ASSEMBLY MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA Thursday, 13 November 2014
Thursday, 13 November 2014] 3290 No 31—2014] FIRST SESSION, FIFTH PARLIAMENT REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA ———————— MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ———————— THURSDAY, 13 NOVEMBER 2014 1. The House met at 14:02. 2. The Speaker took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment of silence for prayer or meditation. 3. [14:12] Mr M Waters, having disregarded the authority of the Chair, was ordered to withdraw from the Chamber for the remainder of the day’s sitting. Mr Waters refused to leave the Chamber. 4. [14:32] Notices of motion. 5. [16:23] Mr S C Mncwabe moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes that a Durban high school principal was removed by the KwaZulu-Natal Department of Education on Monday, after allegations of sexual misconduct, with a pupil; (2) further notes that the principal would be brought before a disciplinary tribunal of the KwaZulu-Natal Department of Education; (3) acknowledges that allegations of sexual misconduct by educators in South Africa involving learners, is prevalent; and (4) implores the KwaZulu-Natal Department of Education to mete out the harshest possible sanction, should the principal be found guilty of sexual misconduct in order to send a strong signal to all educators that sexual misconduct with learners will not be tolerated in South Africa. Agreed to. MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 3291 6. [Thursday, 13 November 2014 Ms R M M Lesoma moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes the gala event to celebrate the Zimbabwean born Mzantsi legend, Dorothy Masuku, held at the Gallagher Convention Centre in Midrand on Saturday, 15 November 2014; (2) further notes that the international music giant Oliver Mtukudzi is set to give an honorary performance for Masuku along with other trailblazers who claim Zimbabwe as their ancestral land; (3) acknowledges Dorothy Masuku, who has changed her surname to Masuka, is a role model to many musicians in Africa as a whole; and (4) congratulates those who have organised this event to honour even those who are still alive. Agreed to. 7. Ms D Robinson moved without notice: That the House (1) notes that many women in South Africa live in perpetual fear of abuse; (2) further notes that gender-based violence, in particular, is rife and hardly a week goes by in South Africa without being confronted with a horrific report in the media about child or woman abuse; (3) recognises that there were 16 charges against on-duty police officers and 37 reported rape cases against off-duty police between April and September this year; (4) acknowledges that the Independent Police Investigative Directorate revealed this in a report to Parliament’s Portfolio Committee on Police yesterday; (5) further acknowledges that the Western Cape has the highest number of rape cases against on-duty police officers, followed by Gauteng; (6) recalls that the 16 Days of Activism Against Abuse of Women is fast approaching at the end of November, and it is a well-known fact that the incidence of sexual crimes in South Africa is extremely high; and (7) calls on the Minister of Police and the Minister of Women to urgently intervene to ensure the safety of our most vulnerable women and children. Agreed to. 8. Mr M P Sibande moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes that in its resolution A/68/12 of 26 November 2013, the United Nations General Assembly has decided to proclaim 2014 as the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People; MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 Thursday, 13 November 2014] 3292 (2) further notes that in 1977, the General Assembly called for the annual observance of 29 November as the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People; (3) believes that the Palestinian people have a right to self-determination, which includes and recognises the sovereign independent state of Palestine, living peacefully side by side with Israel; (4) encourages all South Africans to observe the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People and to continue to give the widest support and publicity to the observance of the Day of Solidarity; and (5) calls upon our Government, civil society and interfaith religious bodies, youth and student formations to heighten solidarity with the Palestinian people, with the aim of finding a just solution in order to help to bring peace to the region and to end conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. Agreed to. 9. Mr N Singh moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes with sadness that today marks the fourth anniversary of the brutal murder of Ms Anni Hindocha; (2) recognises the growing levels of violent crime in domestic relationships in South Africa; (3) supports all initiatives aimed at reducing domestic violence, which includes domestic abuse, spousal abuse, battering, family violence and intimate partner violence; and (4) sends its heartfelt support to the Hindocha family during this difficult time. Agreed to. 10. Rev K R J Meshoe moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes that the Jasper Solar Power Project, which was developed by Solar Reserve and partly by Google, has been completed and is now fully operational; (2) recognises that this is the biggest solar project on the African continent; (3) commends Solar Reserve, whose project is set to power 80 000 households in the country, for completing the project two months ahead of schedule; MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 3293 [Thursday, 13 November 2014 (4) welcomes Solar Reserve chief executive officer Kevin Smith’s announcement that the Jasper project will not only help South Africa meet its critical electricity needs by providing clean energy to our people, but that it will bring long lasting economic benefits to the region in the Northern Cape; and (5) further welcomes reports about future projects, including their upcoming CSP projects that will provide South Africa with clean, reliable and non-intermittent electricity, day and night. Agreed to. 11. Mr B A Radebe moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes that plans are under way to celebrate the life and contribution of Nelson Mandela, one year after he died; (2) further notes that to mark the anniversary, Cricket South Africa has partnered with the Nelson Mandela Foundation and the South African Rugby Union to host a T20 cricket match between the Proteas and Springboks on 5 December, at the Wanderers Stadium; (3) acknowledges that various fundraising initiatives will take place on the day, with the proceeds going to the Nelson Mandela Foundation; and (4) congratulates the organisers of this event for keeping Madiba’s legacy alive. Agreed to. 12. Ms R N Capa moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes that the Khayiyana family comes from a poor background and that the Government cares about all the people, especially the ordinary poor people of this country; (2) further notes that the Government’s role is commendable considering the history of poverty in this country; (3) commends and congratulates the Government in view of the fact that the police and the Department of Social Development have managed to trace and recover the remains of a toddler from Njimbinxini village, who went missing in February this year; (4) further commends the high quality of DNA testing in South Africa, which has made it possible for the remains of the toddler to be linked to the mother; and (5) acknowledges that the remains of the toddler will be buried at Njimbinxini village in Flagstaff, in the Ngquza Hill Municipality, in this month of Activism for No Violence Against Women and Children. MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 Thursday, 13 November 2014] 3294 Agreed to. 13. Mr M L W Filtane moved without notice: That the House — (1) notes that there are allegations of rotten feeding schemes in the Province of Limpopo, where about 275 pupils at Makeke Primary School were reportedly taken to hospital on Monday; (2) further notes that suppliers reportedly supplied food that had no expiry date and in some instances provided nutrition that was not prescribed by the Department’s nutrition regulations; (3) recalls that these kinds of allegations are not new as in 2007, Lindokuhle Boya reported about a rotten feeding scheme in the Eastern Cape; (4) condemns people or suppliers who supply rotten food to public schools and tender boards who award tenders to these suppliers; and (5) calls on all relevant stakeholders to probe these allegations and to bring the perpetrators to book and sanction them not to do business with Government in future. Agreed to. 14. [17:33] Members’ statements. 15. FIRST ORDER [18:02] Consideration of Report of Ad hoc committee on Report by the President regarding security upgrades at Nkandla private residence of the President (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 11 November 2014, p 2949). Debate concluded. The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted. The Chief Whip of the Opposition moved as an amendment: That the House removes all words after “as follows” in the report and replace it with a report as tabled by him (text of the report appended to the Minutes). Declarations of vote made on behalf of the Democratic Alliance, Economic Freedom Fighters, Freedom Front Plus, Inkatha Freedom Party, United Democratic Movement, African Peoples Convention, National Freedom Party, Congress of the People, African Christian Democratic Party and African National Congress. The Leader of the Opposition disregarded the authority of the Chair, the Deputy Speaker named him in terms of Rule 52(b). Question put: That the amendment as moved by the Chief Whip of the Opposition be agreed to. MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 3295 [Thursday, 13 November 2014 Division demanded. House divided. AYES - 91: America, D; Atkinson, P G; Bagraim, M; Baker, T E; Balindlela, Z B N; Basson, L J; Bergman, D; Bhanga, B M; Boshoff, H S; Bozzoli, B; Brauteseth, T J; Breytenbach, G; Cassim, Y; Chance, R W T; Davis, G R; De Freitas, M S F; De Kock, K; Dreyer, A M; Figg, M J; Figlan, A M; Filtane, M L W; Gardee, G A; Greyling, L W; Grootboom, G A; Hadebe, T Z; Holomisa, B H; Horn, W; Hunsinger, C H H; James, L V; Jongbloed, Z; Joseph, B D; Kalyan, S V; Khawula, M S; Khoza, N P; Kohler, D; Kopane, S P; Kruger, H C C; Krumbock, G R; Kwankwa, N L S; Lees, R A; Litchfield-Tshabalala, K; Lorimer, J R B; Lotriet, A; Lovemore, A T; Mackay, G; Mackenzie, C; Macpherson, D W; Maimane, M A; Malatsi, M S; Marais, S J F; Mashabela, N R; Matsepe, C D; Matshobeni, A; Maxon, H O; Maynier, D J; Mbatha, M S; Mbhele, Z N; Mcloughlin, A R; Mhlongo, T W; Michael, N W A; Mileham, K J; Mokgalapa, S; Morapela, K Z; Motau, S C; Mulaudzi, T E; Mulder, C P; Ollis, I M; Redelinghuys, M H; Robinson, D; Ross, D C; Schmidt, H C; Selfe, J; Shinn, M R; Stander, T; Steenhuisen, J H; Steenkamp, J; Steyn, A; Stubbe, D J; Swart, S N; Tarabella Marchesi, N I; Terblanche, J F; Twala, D L; Van Damme, P T; Van Der Walt, D; Van Der Westhuizen, A P; Van Dyk, V; Volmink, H C; Walters, T C R; Waters, M; Whitfield, A G; Wilson, E R. NOES - 211: Abrahams, B L; Adams, F; Adams, P E; Bam-Mugwanya, V; Basson, J V; Bekwa, S D; Beukman, F; Bhengu, P; Bhengu, F; Bhengu, N R; Bilankulu, N K; Bongo, B T; Bonhomme, T J; Booi, M S; Boroto, M G; Boshielo, S P; Capa, R N; Capa, N; Carrim, Y I; Cele, B H; Cele, M A; Chabane, O C; Chikunga, L S; Chohan, F I; Chueu, M P; Coleman, E M; Cronin, J P; Cwele, S C; Davies, R H; Didiza, A T; Dlakude, D E; Dlamini, B O; Dlamini-Dubazana, Z S; Dlodlo, A; Dlomo, B J; Dlulane, B N; Dunjwa, M L; Ebrahim, E S; Faku, Z C; Frolick, C T; Fubbs, J L; Gamede, D D; Gcwabaza, N E; Gigaba, K M N; Gina, N; Godi, N T; Goqwana, M B; Gumede, D M; Hanekom, D A; Jeffery, J H; Johnson, M; Jonas, M H; Kalako, M U; Kekana, P S; Kekana, M D; Kekana, E; Kekana, C D; Kenye, T E; Khoarai, L P; Khosa, D H; Khoza, T Z M; Khoza, M B; Khubisa, N M; Khunou, N P; Kilian, J D; Koornhof, G W; Kubayi, M T; Lesoma, R M M; Letsatsi-Duba, D B; Loliwe, F S; Luyenge, Z; Luzipo, S; Maake, J J; Mabasa, X; Mabe, B P; Mabe, P P; Mabija, L; Mabilo, S P; Mabudafhasi, T R; Madella, A F; Madlopha, C Q; Maesela, P; Mafolo, M V; Mafu, N N; Magadzi, D P; Magwanishe, G; Mahambehlala, T; Mahlalela, A F; Mahlangu, D G; Mahlangu, J L; Mahlobo, M D; Maila, M S A; Majola, F Z; Makhubela-Mashele, L S; Makhubele, Z S; Makondo, T; Makwetla, S P; Malgas, H H; Maluleke, J M; Manamela, K B; Manana, M C; Manana, M N S; Manana, D P; Mandela, Z M D; Mantashe, P T; Maphatsoe, E R K; Mapisa-Nqakula, N N; Mapulane, M P; Martins, B A D; Masango, M S A; Masehela, E K M; Maseko, L M; Mashatile, S P; Mashego-Dlamini, K C; Mashile, B L; Masondo, N A; Masuku, M B; Masutha, T M; Mathale, C C; Mathebe, D H; Matlala, M H; Matshoba, M O; Matsimbi, C; Mavunda, R T; Maxegwana, C H M; Mbalula, F A; Mbete, B; Mchunu, S; Mdakane, M R; Memela, T C; Mfeketo, N C; Mkongi, B M; Mmemezi, H M Z; Mmola, M P; Mmusi, S G; Mncwabe, S C; Mnganga - Gcabashe, L A; Mnguni, P J; Mnguni, D; Mnisi, N A; Mogotsi, V P; Mokoto, N R; Molebatsi, M A; Moloi-Moropa, J C; Morutoa, M R; Mosala, I; Mothapo, M R M; Motimele, M S; Motshekga, M S; Mpumlwana, L K B; Mthembu, N; Mthethwa, E M; Mudau, A M; Muthambi, A F; Nchabeleng, M E; Ndaba, C N; Ndongeni, N; MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 Thursday, 13 November 2014] 3296 Nesi, B A; Ngcobo, B T; Ngwenya-Mabila, P C; Nkadimeng, M F; Nobanda, G N; November, N T; Nqakula, C; Ntombela, M L D; Nxesi, T W; Nyalungu, R E; Nzimande, B E; Oliphant, G G; Oosthuizen, G C; Pandor, G N M; Patel, E; Peters, E D; Phaahla, M J; Phosa, Y N; Pikinini, I A; PilaneMajake, M C C; Qikani, A D N; Radebe, B A; Radebe, G S; Ralegoma, S M; Ramaphosa, M C; Ramatlakane, L; Ramokhoase, T R J E; Rantho, D Z; Raphuti, D D; Semenya, M R; September, C C; Shabangu, S; Shaik Emam, A M; Sibande, M P; Siwela, E K; Sizani, P S; Skosana, J J; Smith, V G; Sotyu, M M; Surty, M E; Tleane, S A; Tobias, T V; Tom, X S; Tongwane, T M A; Tseke, G K; Tseli, R M; Tshwete, P; Tsoleli, S P; Tsotetsi, D R; v R Koornhof, N J J; Van Rooyen, D D D; Xego-Sovita, S T; Yengeni, L E; Zulu, L D. ABSTAIN - 7: Esterhuizen, J A; Hlengwa, M; Mjobo, L N; Msimanga, C T; Singh, N; Sithole, K P; Van Der Merwe, L L. Question not agreed to. Amendment accordingly negatived. Question put: That the motion moved by the Chief Whip of the Majority Party be agreed to. Division demanded. House divided. AYES - 210: Abrahams, B L; Adams, F; Adams, P E; Bam-Mugwanya, V; Basson, J V; Bekwa, S D; Beukman, F; Bhengu, P; Bhengu, F; Bhengu, N R; Bilankulu, N K; Bongo, B T; Bonhomme, T J; Booi, M S; Boroto, M G; Boshielo, S P; Capa, R N; Capa, N; Carrim, Y I; Cele, B H; Cele, M A; Chabane, O C; Chikunga, L S; Chohan, F I; Chueu, M P; Coleman, E M; Cronin, J P; Cwele, S C; Davies, R H; Didiza, A T; Dlakude, D E; Dlamini, B O; Dlamini-Dubazana, Z S; Dlodlo, A; Dlomo, B J; Dlulane, B N; Dunjwa, M L; Ebrahim, E S; Faku, Z C; Frolick, C T; Fubbs, J L; Gamede, D D; Gcwabaza, N E; Gigaba, K M N; Gina, N; Godi, N T; Goqwana, M B; Gumede, D M; Hanekom, D A; Jeffery, J H; Johnson, M; Jonas, M H; Kalako, M U; Kekana, P S; Kekana, E; Kekana, C D; Kekana, M D; Kenye, T E; Khoarai, L P; Khosa, D H; Khoza, T Z M; Khoza, M B; Khubisa, N M; Khunou, N P; Kilian, J D; Koornhof, G W; Kubayi, M T; Lesoma, R M M; Letsatsi-Duba, D B; Loliwe, F S; Luyenge, Z; Luzipo, S; Maake, J J; Mabasa, X; Mabe, B P; Mabija, L; Mabilo, S P; Mabudafhasi, T R; Madella, A F; Madlopha, C Q; Maesela, P; Mafolo, M V; Mafu, N N; Magadzi, D P; Magwanishe, G; Mahambehlala, T; Mahlalela, A F; Mahlangu, D G; Mahlangu, J L; Maila, M S A; Majola, F Z; Makhubela-Mashele, L S; Makhubele, Z S; Makondo, T; Makwetla, S P; Malgas, H H; Maluleke, J M; Manamela, K B; Manana, M C; Manana, M N S; Manana, D P; Mandela, Z M D; Mantashe, P T; Maphatsoe, E R K; Mapisa-Nqakula, N N; Mapulane, M P; Martins, B A D; Masango, M S A; Masehela, E K M; Maseko, L M; Mashatile, S P; Mashego-Dlamini, K C; Mashile, B L; Masondo, N A; Masuku, M B; Masutha, T M; Mathale, C C; Mathebe, D H; Matlala, M H; Matshoba, M O; Matsimbi, C; Mavunda, R T; Maxegwana, C H M; Mbalula, F A; Mbete, B; Mchunu, S; Mdakane, M R; Memela, T C; MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 3297 [Thursday, 13 November 2014 Mfeketo, N C; Mjobo, L N; Mkongi, B M; Mmemezi, H M Z; Mmola, M P; Mmusi, S G; Mncwabe, S C; Mnganga - Gcabashe, L A; Mnguni, P J; Mnguni, D; Mnisi, N A; Mogotsi, V P; Mokoto, N R; Molebatsi, M A; Moloi-Moropa, J C; Morutoa, M R; Mosala, I; Mothapo, M R M; Motimele, M S; Motshekga, M S; Mpumlwana, L K B; Mthembu, N; Mthethwa, E M; Mudau, A M; Muthambi, A F; Nchabeleng, M E; Ndaba, C N; Ndongeni, N; Nesi, B A; Ngcobo, B T; Ngwenya-Mabila, P C; Nkadimeng, M F; Nobanda, G N; November, N T; Nqakula, C; Ntombela, M L D; Nxesi, T W; Nyalungu, R E; Nzimande, B E; Oliphant, G G; Oosthuizen, G C; Pandor, G N M; Patel, E; Peters, E D; Phaahla, M J; Phosa, Y N; Pikinini, I A; PilaneMajake, M C C; Qikani, A D N; Radebe, B A; Radebe, G S; Ralegoma, S M; Ramaphosa, M C; Ramatlakane, L; Ramokhoase, T R J E; Rantho, D Z; Raphuti, D D; Semenya, M R; September, C C; Shabangu, S; Shaik Emam, A M; Sibande, M P; Siwela, E K; Sizani, P S; Skosana, J J; Smith, V G; Sotyu, M M; Surty, M E; Tleane, S A; Tobias, T V; Tom, X S; Tongwane, T M A; Tseke, G K; Tseli, R M; Tshwete, P; Tsoleli, S P; Tsotetsi, D R; v R Koornhof, N J J; Van Rooyen, D D D; Xego-Sovita, S T; Yengeni, L E; Zulu, L D. NOES - 103: America, D; Atkinson, P G; Bagraim, M; Baker, T E; Balindlela, Z B N; Basson, L J; Bergman, D; Bhanga, B M; Boshoff, H S; Bozzoli, B; Brauteseth, T J; Breytenbach, G; Cardo, M J; Cassim, Y; Chance, R W T; Davis, G R; De Freitas, M S F; De Kock, K; Dreyer, A M; Esterhuizen, J A; Figg, M J; Figlan, A M; Filtane, M L W; Gardee, G A; Greyling, L W; Grootboom, G A; Hadebe, T Z; Hlengwa, M; Holomisa, B H; Horn, W; Hunsinger, C H H; James, L V; Jongbloed, Z; Joseph, B D; Kalyan, S V; Khawula, M S; Khoza, N P; Kohler, D; Kopane, S P; Kruger, H C C; Krumbock, G R; Kwankwa, N L S; Lees, R A; LitchfieldTshabalala, K; Lorimer, J R B; Lotriet, A; Lovemore, A T; Mackay, G; Mackenzie, C; Macpherson, D W; Madisha, W M; Maimane, M A; Majeke, C N; Malatsi, M S; Marais, S J F; Mashabela, N R; Matsepe, C D; Matshobeni, A; Maxon, H O; Maynier, D J; Mbatha, M S; Mbhele, Z N; Mcloughlin, A R; Mhlongo, T W; Michael, N W A; Mileham, K J; Mokgalapa, S; Morapela, K Z; Motau, S C; Msimanga, C T; Mulaudzi, T E; Mulder, C P; Nkomo, S J; Nqweniso, N V; Ollis, I M; Redelinghuys, M H; Robinson, D; Ross, D C; Schmidt, H C; Selfe, J; Shinn, M R; Singh, N; Sithole, K P; Sonti, N P; Stander, T; Steenhuisen, J H; Steenkamp, J; Steyn, A; Stubbe, D J; Swart, S N; Tarabella Marchesi, N I; Terblanche, J F; Twala, D L; Van Damme, P T; Van Der Merwe, L L; Van Der Walt, D; Van Der Westhuizen, A P; Van Dyk, V; Volmink, H C; Walters, T C R; Waters, M; Whitfield, A G; Wilson, E R. MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 Thursday, 13 November 2014] 3298 Question agreed to. Report accordingly adopted. BUSINESS SUSPENDED AT 20:55 AND RESUMED AT 21:45. [21:46] The Chief Whip of the Majority Party, with leave, moved: That precedence be given to Order 39. BUSINESS SUSPENDED AT 22:01 AND RESUMED AT 22:14. [22:14] Mr N Singh, with leave, moved: That the House amend the motion of the Chief Whip of the Majority Party as follows: That precedence be given to Order 39 and all other business be postponed . Agreed to. ORDERS TWO TO THIRTY EIGHT (BUDGETARY REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION REPORTS) AND DEBATE ON IPU TOPIC STOOD OVER. 16. THIRTY NINTH ORDER [22:18] Consideration of Request for Approval by Parliament of Treaty on the Grand Inga Hydropower Project between the Republic of South Africa and the Democratic Republic of Congo in terms of section 231(2) of Constitution (Report of Portfolio Committee on Energy, see Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 4 November 2014, p 2677). After Ms N R Mashabela disregarded the authority of the Chair, she was ordered to withdraw from the Chamber for the remainder of the day’s sitting. Ms N R Mashabela refused to leave the Chamber and House Chairperson, C T Frolick, called upon the Serjeant-at-Arms to remove the member. The member having refused to leave after the intervention of the Serjeant-atArms, was subsequently escorted out of the Chamber by members of the Parliamentary Protection Services and South African Police Services. BUSINESS SUSPENDED AT 22:45 AND RESUMED AT 22:58. MINUTES: NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NO 31─2014 3299 [Thursday, 13 November 2014 The Leader of the Opposition, with leave, moved: That the proceedings be adjourned in view of disorder in the House. Agreed to. Debate interrupted. Treaty on the Grand Inga Hydropower Project between the Republic of South Africa and the Democratic Republic of Congo approved. 17. The House adjourned at 23:03. 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